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42 43 Reefing Blocks   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jun 04, 2008 - 01:05 am - Anyone have a drawing of where the reefing blocks go for slab reefing on a 42 / 43 Cutter Main boom? I have the manual and a bunch of blue prints but ...
Jun 22, 2008 - 11:37 am - the position is best determined by checking the fit of your sail. if you get them off a drawing they may be wrong. The reason is that your sail maker ...

42 Or 43 Staysl' Boom Tack Attachment Qst   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

May 12, 2007 - 09:03 pm - I'm near the end and I'm looking at how the tack attaches. Any one with a picture or some good words describing the attachment would be appreciated. T...

Advise On Down Wind Sailing   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Mar 10, 2008 - 12:39 am - Hi:I have a 300 SF Yankee from Kern and a new main sail with full battens also from Kern.Now I'd like advise on how to get the best performance when r...
Mar 10, 2008 - 01:41 am - Jay,Running with the yankee is fun. Do you have a long whisker or spinnaker pole to work with? That's the only way I know of to run wing on wing witho...
Mar 10, 2008 - 05:00 pm - Jay, I'm a lazy cruiser and absolutely hate messing with the downwind pole for the jib. I run a line forward through a snatch block at the end of the ...
Mar 10, 2008 - 11:19 pm - Thanks Aaron and Lee -- now to setup and test out your suggetstions.I'm hoping for a whisker pole to assist with the Yankee until we have a cruising s...
Oct 18, 2008 - 03:34 am - When sailing wing on wing with the main, and yankee poled out, we have found flying the staysl sheeted to the midline, reduces rolling and helps hold ...

Alternatives To Kern - What Have You Tried ?   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jan 17, 2005 - 01:54 pm - Hello all.I emailed Kern re sails for a W32 and to date have received no reply at all. I am sure his products are superb, but worry slightly about the...
Jan 20, 2005 - 05:52 am - Ahoy Joe and Jane, Kern's e-mail address is: kernsails@sbcglobal.netThis is a change from what may have been listed earlier. Good Luck
Jan 21, 2005 - 08:34 am - Hello Dave, hope you are well.The address I have was given to me by Bud about 3 weeks ago, but will try the other one. I will probably go for a differ...
Jan 22, 2005 - 12:46 am - you have to call. I know that is tough from the UK.He does not email.Rich
Jan 22, 2005 - 04:50 am - Hi Rich, well with the greatest respect, I will look elsewhere. No offense meant to Kern, he is obviously busy. As said above, I just want to deal wit...
Jan 22, 2005 - 04:36 pm - Port Townsend sails.Carol.

Anchor Sail   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Mar 27, 2009 - 11:59 am - Does anyone use one? Does it work? What size is it? Pictures?Short and to the point, thanks.

Angled Winches   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jan 30, 2006 - 12:25 am - Inalla, my W32, has the winches mounted at perhaps a fifteen or so degree angle back from vertical. I can see where the old mounting holes were, so at...
Jan 30, 2006 - 04:33 am - The reason they have been changed is to prevent overrides on the winch.Rich

Another Asymmetric Spinnaker Question!   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jan 29, 2008 - 07:57 pm - Hi all,What is the optimum size of a cruising spinnaker for W32s? I've found many threads on here about them, but haven't seen a square footage recomm...
Jan 29, 2008 - 10:25 pm - There is a W32 sailplan with dimensions in my Westsail Service Manual. Page A-24
Jan 30, 2008 - 12:37 am - Boy, everything is in your service manual. There's so much, I forget what's there!Fair leads,Aaron N.
Jan 30, 2008 - 12:51 am - Bud,I just had my father look and he says he's unable to find numbers for an asymmetric in our book. Further, most of the labels are fuzzy and illegib...
Jan 30, 2008 - 04:31 am - mine has a 44 foot luff and works great.rich
Jan 30, 2008 - 09:57 pm - Ahoy Aaron,I don't know the answer to your cruising spinnaker question because I don't have one. I do have some numbers that may be helpful however.I ...
Feb 07, 2009 - 07:40 pm - Hi all,I would like to continue this asymmetrical spinnaker/drifter question. I'm looking at a used asym. spinnaker; 45' luff, 36' foot, 36' leech, 3/...
Feb 09, 2009 - 05:28 am - David,The asymmetric I use has a 43' luff, and I don't think I could get much more on there. I can just barely get the luff tight as it is! So I doubt...
Feb 09, 2009 - 09:00 pm - Hi Aaron,Thanks for the response. At the top of this thread you stated that your spinnaker had a 43' luff and sail area of 650sq'. Now you say 950sq'....
Feb 10, 2009 - 06:36 am - David,I didn't update my first post. I sold the little asymm and bought a used fully symmetric 1050 sq/ft sail from another W32 owner. This was recut ...
Jun 25, 2009 - 01:19 am - Hi all,Just got back from a weekend sailing and got to fly my new/used 47' luff "A scow" asym. spinnaker a few times. I think the foot measure...

Anybody Want To Share Some Polars For The Westsail 32?   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jan 02, 2007 - 06:09 pm - I would like to see these.Let me know.ThanksRichJasmine W32 #488
Jan 02, 2007 - 09:42 pm - What is it/are they?

Asymmetrical Spinnaker   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Dec 22, 2005 - 04:19 am - I'm considering a cruising spinnaker and have come across one that is rigged the same as an asymmetrical, but is cut like a conventional spinnaker. Wh...
Dec 22, 2005 - 03:20 pm - I flew a symmetrical as an asymmetrical on a Catalina 38, and it didn't work very well. While we were flying it, a W32 passed us, which shouldn't happ...

At Least The Mast Didn't Fold   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Aug 02, 2009 - 02:36 pm - Sailing is so exciting.... Yesterday while on a reach across the slot and just as we reached the east side of Alcatraz island in the SF bay, a Toggle ...
Aug 02, 2009 - 02:38 pm - Admins -- sorry about the image size -- I though 640 X 480 would be fine... Delete if needed and I'll repost a small sized image.
Aug 02, 2009 - 03:03 pm - I think you uploaded the original and not the smaller version. This one was 2549 X 1944. No worries, I was able to resize it to 640X480.Wow, so, it wa...
Aug 02, 2009 - 05:02 pm - Well... I know what I'm going to go out and look at as soon as I'm done with my coffee!Glad everyone is safe!Andrea
Aug 02, 2009 - 07:39 pm - Good I'm glad you are all checking - not worth the mast and possible injury. I'm sure the boaters in the area wondered why we were circling in the lee...
Aug 02, 2009 - 07:54 pm - I'm not sure on the above forged bronze toggles -- I'm seeing only SS toggle ends... I'll clear up my confusion...
Aug 03, 2009 - 01:35 am - What kind of wood is that? Phew - glad everything worked out ok!
Aug 03, 2009 - 02:36 pm - Looking at the wood this AM, it is a clear fir - I believe...I'd focus first on your T-bolts -- mine were screw on and the crackes were hidden up in t...
Aug 03, 2009 - 02:47 pm - This is a great example of why the split back stays are a good modification from the original build of the Westsail 32.So glad you escaped serious inj...
Aug 04, 2009 - 12:14 am - I have ordered the SS boomkin's and Stern pulpit with ladder from Bud..The owner guessed that the wood may be spruce.. maybe Bud actually knows!!
Aug 04, 2009 - 03:39 pm - The wooden boomkins made by Westsail were usually straight grain fir with no knots.
Aug 05, 2009 - 04:27 am - Ahoy,Just by coincidence, I am refinishing an original wood boomkin on a W-32, hull #84 at this time. It is oak and in very good condition. It has nev...
Aug 05, 2009 - 03:15 pm - I guess if the boomkins and bowsprit are kept varnished problems that start to develope will be easily seen - not so with regular paint.
Aug 06, 2009 - 12:13 am - Just to keep the story clear -- first the stb toggle bolt failed THEN the clear fir painted boomkins failed. The port side boomkin broke in a large sl...
Sep 06, 2009 - 02:58 am - I've started replacing the threaded style TB's and found one that was cracked.\image {Close up of the TB}
Sep 06, 2009 - 03:00 am - One more try.http://picasaweb.google.com/jaybietz/Boomkin#
Oct 05, 2009 - 02:06 pm - I had a fitting go on the boomkin due to rust a year or so ago whilst sailing in 35knots. Fortunately the boomkin supported the rig without it as I di...
Oct 18, 2009 - 12:26 am - Hey Rod- Where ya been?

Backstay Tension   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Oct 07, 2004 - 06:24 pm - Anyone know the numbers for what the backstay tension should be for 9/32 wire? I suspect that my forestay tension is insufficient but they both may be...
Oct 16, 2007 - 09:01 pm - Good day All:I tried this a while back, but Nada? I will try agian.There is a nice way of listing the standing rigging tension information in a Table ...

Battened V. Unbattened   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jul 26, 2007 - 09:44 pm - I invite opinions regarding the pros and cons of full battens, half battens, and no battens on the main (or stay) sail. I am especially concerned abou...
Jul 27, 2007 - 07:10 pm - Dan,A full-batten main with a corresponding full roach will indeed have a more "ideal" shape for a mainsail, especially initially. It will hav...
Jul 28, 2007 - 01:55 am - Hey, Dan,Don't know much but a WS owner put me on a fine study that I just finished examining in depth for several weeks. It's the book "Sailmaker...

Blocks And Tackles   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Dec 19, 2008 - 10:27 pm - What is the recommended strong and simple block manufacturer/product line for our boats? The Blockit blocks on my boat are starting to fail. My local ...
Dec 20, 2008 - 03:09 am - Defender.com can't be beat
Dec 20, 2008 - 04:51 am - Reasons,All of the blocks you'll find in big chandlers are good. If I had to buy all new though, I'd really look around for user-serviceable blocks. T...
Dec 21, 2008 - 01:09 pm - Mark Miller, owner of WS28 Patricia A, made some really nice antique-looking wooden blocks a while back. You might check with him -- I'll find his ema...
Dec 24, 2008 - 03:26 pm - I buy all my blocks from Garhauer Marine, and all ball bearing with stainless cheeks. Contact me directly for some very good pricing.

Boom Gallows - How To Use?   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jan 17, 2005 - 12:35 am - I have been sailing my W32 with the boom sitting and locked into the boom gallows. I've now realised (I think) that this is not the way to sail. Can a...
Jan 17, 2005 - 03:03 am - Hi RodThe gallows are there mainly for the following reasons.To support the boom in port or at anchor (Prevents slapping.)To Lock the boom in a fixed ...
Jan 18, 2005 - 08:49 am - thanks for the explanation. I think it is all clear now and I feel pretty stupid now having sailed about 600nm with the boom locked into the gallows. ...
Jan 18, 2005 - 06:49 pm - Rod I applaude you on you humble admission. You have given some insight though (if I ever break the boom I could sail with a partial boom outhauled on...
Jan 20, 2005 - 05:18 am - thanks for the helpful advice Norm. Regarding my humble admission, I always say "I don't know", when I don't. I have encountered many "sai...

Boom Lenth   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

May 11, 2005 - 03:23 pm - i want to cut my boom about two feet to just past the dodger. put a harkin traveler midships, build a new main with full battens, i think this would g...
May 12, 2005 - 02:30 pm - The cut will do you good.I cut 22" off mine, and had the foot cut back to 14'-0" and what an improvement, handeling, and sailing it was.One ad...
May 13, 2005 - 06:08 am - Ahoy Chuck and Pam,I have a number of thoughts on this subject but will only address 2 of them, or maybe 3.Most of us W-32 veterans are aware of the p...
May 13, 2005 - 08:30 pm - Back again with more detailAs Dave said you will loose area.In my case (Old sails, no battens at all, and originaly 15'-3" foot) I lost 1'3" i...
May 25, 2005 - 12:59 am - Beware of adding a mid boom traveler. Unless you upgraded the boom section an accidental gybe you may have two booms. I've known it to happen. Not my ...
May 27, 2005 - 01:20 pm - thanks guys, the boat is new to me. i have sailed on more mod sloop rigs and of course i am transfering ideas. i am planing to head to new zealand in ...

Boomkin - Rig Tension   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jul 20, 2009 - 10:38 am - i'm about to take off the boomkin to replace the wood support blocks (can't afford the s/s version at the moment).i obviously have to disconnect the a...
Jul 20, 2009 - 03:36 pm - Rene, No need to change the tension on the headstay. The mast may bend forward slightly at the top, but it will come back in line again when you reins...
Jul 21, 2009 - 03:32 am - thanks for the valuable advice Bud, as always!

Crane Or Bail For Assymetrical Spinnaker?   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Sep 10, 2005 - 09:22 pm - We are going to add an assymetrical spinnaker to our sail inventory. How has anyone rigged this on a westsail 32. I have the mast down and want to add...
Sep 11, 2005 - 04:50 pm - I have a bail that attaches to the top of the mast, and sticks out ahead of the headstay. Attach a swivel block to the bail for the halyard.

Cross-linked Polyethylene For Fuel Tanks   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Nov 22, 2009 - 09:48 pm - Thinking about replacing my fuel tanks with crosslinked polyethylenehttp://www.oceanlinkinc.comany thoughts, suggestions, feeback, experience?thanksFl...
Nov 23, 2009 - 02:00 am - I wouldn't go in that direction. Plastics are flammable and if even a small fire weakens a small part of the tank, the fire suddenly involves 10s of g...
Nov 23, 2009 - 03:51 pm - The company that makes the polyethylene water tanks for me will not make any permanently mounted tanks for diesel or gas due to the liability problem ...
Nov 24, 2009 - 03:16 am - Thanks...you have suffiently scared me away from the ploy tanks. Thank you for your feedback.It was late when I posted..wrong sectionThanksFlip

Determining Waterline On W32   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Apr 07, 2008 - 03:23 pm - Hi all,I asked this a bit back in an obscure thread, so it probably wasn't seen.What is the best way to see when our boats are sitting on their lines?...
Apr 07, 2008 - 10:54 pm - Ahoy Aaron,The designed LWL at the bow was at the bottom of the cutwater fitting. This should be about 54 inches, vertically, from the highest point o...
Apr 08, 2008 - 12:04 am - Hey Dave: I will be setting my waterline for the first time. Do you know if the scribed mark from the factory was accurate, or have they been adjusted...
Apr 08, 2008 - 12:37 am - There must be a way to just run a tape, bow and stern, 'x' inches to the water (from?)- Hull #553 here and I would sure like to know as well if my boo...
Apr 08, 2008 - 05:21 am - Mike & Ivana,On the first hull mold, the one that used the SS gudgeons and pintles, (I owned #84 for 12+ years) and also on the second mold, t...
Apr 08, 2008 - 02:59 pm - Aaron -Look at the following two links. They show the location of the cutwater fitting and bottom bolt hole for the boomkin tang.Of course this is onl...
Apr 08, 2008 - 03:16 pm - A very helpful guide!
Apr 08, 2008 - 10:25 pm - Dave and Gary,Thanks for the clarification. I had bit adjusting the rig with the bow a bit down. - that may explain why, even with "no rake", ...

Dodger   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jul 11, 2008 - 04:01 pm - I am looking to have a dodger made for my boat. I have a quote from a local guy, but was wondering if any "prefab" options exist. In other wor...
Jul 15, 2008 - 06:33 pm - Mike,I am considering having the dodger material on my boat replaced. The frame is still good. I'm worried about the expense. So, if you figure a way ...
Jul 15, 2008 - 10:09 pm - Mike - there is a discussion thread about dodgers, and some links to suppliers who've already made them up,and photos under the General Discussion tab...
Jul 15, 2008 - 11:34 pm - I understand that about half the cost is in the frame (although the math never works out), so you are further ahead than I am Randy. Thinking back to ...
Jul 17, 2008 - 05:01 am - Would it not help financially to be able to use the old cover as a pattern for the replacement?

Downhaul   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jun 27, 2008 - 04:43 pm - I am plugging along in setting up my once "bare" rig. I have nothing setup for a downhaul or boom vang yet. The gooseneck is attached to the m...
Jun 27, 2008 - 11:44 pm - Sounds like your main is not up all the way if it hits the boom gallows when tacking. You may have to raise the boom at the gooseneck slightly to prev...
Jun 28, 2008 - 12:40 am - Mike,I'm confused about your use of "downhaul" when referring to the main.The only lines used for shaping the main are the halyard, outhaul, c...
Jun 28, 2008 - 12:06 pm - yes, cunningham covers it. To be more specific, does the boat require both? The gooseneck set screw attached to the mast doesnt give me the ability to...
Jun 28, 2008 - 05:19 pm - Mike,You are probably familiar with boats that have booms on adjustable tracks, enabling the boom to be pulled down by the cunningham to shape the sai...
Jun 28, 2008 - 11:58 pm - Aaron, as always, thanks for the insight. Is your gooseneck fixed or sliding? I am growing my own tomatoes this year...Mike
Jun 29, 2008 - 01:55 am - Mike,We have a LeFeil mast with a gooseneck joint welded in place. There are advantages to a slide in terms of pure performance, but I try not to spen...
Jun 30, 2008 - 12:32 am - Aaron,Yea, I hear you. I will move the gooseneck fitting up a few inches and spend my time keeping the beer cold...thanksMike

Drifter   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Nov 27, 2009 - 09:14 pm - Hi, almost finished sewing up my Sailrite drifter and wondering how others have set the sail up on their boats. I've seen Facnor furling units but the...

Drifter   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Nov 27, 2009 - 09:49 pm - Hi, almost finished sewing up my Sailrite drifter and wondering how others have set the sail up on their boats. I've seen Facnor furling units but the...
Dec 04, 2009 - 11:16 pm - Benwe fly our 440 drifter loose luft (Just hoisted from a shive on a "BAIL we mounted on top of the mast") and we have an extra ring on a 2 fo...
Dec 04, 2009 - 11:17 pm - oppsNo furl but flake on deck.stored in a bag below deck as dry as possible.
Dec 06, 2009 - 06:11 pm - Norm, thanks for your thoughts on the drifter. Do you have any photos of the connection to the bowsprit you use? I have a rolling furler on the head s...
Dec 06, 2009 - 10:27 pm - Ben,You can use a 1/2" shackle in place of the clevis pin where the headstay turnbuckle attaches to the end of the bowsprit. This will give you a ...
Dec 15, 2009 - 07:19 am - Bud, how much is the bail attachment?Also I'm not sure I understand the suggestion for replacing the clevis pin on the headstay. I have a roller furle...
Dec 15, 2009 - 06:28 pm - Ben, I will send you an email with the info.I do not have a picture of the shackle on the end of the bowsprit, but it would go through the hole on the...
Dec 15, 2009 - 09:42 pm - Ben:I have not got around to the photo, but you can almost see the shackle and the wire pendent on the bow (pic below). It is in a arc over the platfo...
Dec 15, 2009 - 09:47 pm - Ben:one other point; The free flying sail pulls the tack away from the roller furler unless it is way down near the bowsprit.The side movement is also...

Dutchman Type Main Flaking System   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Apr 26, 2008 - 03:10 am - Have just bought Dream Weaver (now Bloodhound, ya I know the tales of bad luck so all records of the original name have been removed from the boat) an...
Jun 22, 2008 - 11:31 am - How can there be a 1" ball attached to the monofilament between each grommet on the sail? You'd never be able to raise the sail...Perhaps further ...
Jun 23, 2008 - 03:02 am - Brian,Thanks for the reply. Strictly, this is not a Dutchman with monofilament running vertically from top to bottom through grommets in the body of t...
Jun 23, 2008 - 03:04 am - Here's the image when the back-slash is used...
Jun 23, 2008 - 09:58 pm - Just a quick followup on this. The no-name flaking system worked like a beauty. It was the most effortless flaking I've ever done.Ralph
Jun 24, 2008 - 11:20 am - maybe 'cow hitching' the middle of each 'flaking line' will improve performance even more?I have not seen that system before either, and I play with s...
Jun 25, 2008 - 02:51 am - Brian:First a question: What's "cow hitching"?The upper lines have to be quite long. Think of the sail already flaked on the boom... For the l...
Jun 25, 2008 - 03:05 am - The owner of this boat of longest standing is a marine surveyor in the LA area, by the name of Tom Bell. He owned it for the best part of 20 years. I ...
Jun 25, 2008 - 03:16 am - Forgot to mention a potentially important fact: The main has full battens which probably helps to keep the whole stack from falling off the boom if th...
Jun 27, 2008 - 04:01 am - Yes, flaked nicely in a 15 knot breeze. I'm very pleased with the system --- just have to be sure the topping lift is NOT slack when you drop the main...
Jun 27, 2008 - 04:37 pm - Is anyone using the Dutchman flaking system. I was looking at lazy jacks until my brother recommended the dutchman. This system looks even simpler. Wo...
Jun 27, 2008 - 04:38 pm - oh yea, no battens in the main for me
Jun 28, 2008 - 02:06 pm - I don't know if a battened main is necessary or not but if you have a dozen or so eyes along the leach, it's real easy to try. I suspect battens might...
Mar 18, 2009 - 04:26 am - Back in June I promised to post a couple of pictures of the flaking system I use. Today I remembered the camera (9 months later). The system is called...

Flying A Spinnaker With Roller Reefing Jib??   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Apr 15, 2008 - 01:01 am - I may have a buyer for my spinnaker here locally- but Johann (Pegasus, early model W32) has roller reefing, and apparently only 2 halyards/sheaves? If...
Apr 15, 2008 - 04:33 am - Brian,To fly a spinnaker on our boats, you must add a bail and block above the jibstay. Otherwise the halyard chafes horribly on the stay.Bud has bail...
Apr 15, 2008 - 05:13 am - Ahhh, knew there had to be some deep, dark secret!Thanks Aaron- Bet that'll swing the buyer around~

Forestay And Jib Luff Tension   (Active)   Show Entire Thread

Feb 07, 2011 - 10:04 am - Went sailing last Saturday in about 25 knots of wind. Started out with yankee and one reef in the main, but the rail was in the water so put another r...
Feb 08, 2011 - 10:28 am - Gary Burton wrote: Went sailing last Saturday in about 25 knots of wind. Started out with yankee and one reef in the main, but the rail was in the wat...
Feb 08, 2011 - 09:44 am - Stephen Yoder wrote: Gary Burton wrote: Went sailing last Saturday in about 25 knots of wind. Started out with yankee and one reef in the main, but th...
Feb 09, 2011 - 11:34 am - For any wanting to comment but afraid to hurt my feelings - be brutal! I can handle it :)
Feb 10, 2011 - 01:53 pm - Gary, I would recommend getting hold of Dave King, our resident expert in performance of the Westsail boats, and get some feedback from him.
Feb 10, 2011 - 03:15 pm - Yeah - thanks Bud. I hate to keep bugging Dave..... if you're out there Dave and would like to weigh in I'm sure many of us will benefit from your inp...
Feb 10, 2011 - 03:24 pm - After thinking about this, the weight in the stern might be the biggest factor. Without anyone on the boat the boat is about an inch low at the stern ...
Feb 11, 2011 - 02:00 am - I wanted to say something funny but after, just now, seeing the photos of Elizabeth Ann under sail, I could not think of anything humorous. This is wh...
Feb 11, 2011 - 09:39 am - Hi Gary I hope Dave doesn't mind being quoted. Below is some excellent advice the he posted in the old forum. It has been my experience that in winds ...
Feb 11, 2011 - 09:57 am - Yowza. I have removed the piece of leather from my mouth. Thanks for the assessment Dave! I don't have a good reason why the yankee was up and not the...

Forward And Aft Shrouds   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Apr 17, 2009 - 12:05 am - Can anyone tell me if the shorter shrouds are forward or aft before the stick goes up and I kick myself for not asking. Thanks for your help.
Apr 17, 2009 - 12:32 am - The forward lowers are shorter than the aft lowers....

Furler Gear -- Recommendations   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Oct 23, 2004 - 01:29 am - HI:I am researching adding furling gear to my bosses West Sail 32. Bud is listing 2 models, the Jarken Unit #1 Model 882C and Profurl Model LCI 32 at ...
Dec 01, 2004 - 01:59 am - Jay,Walk over to the rigging shop at Svendsen's and talk to the rigging foreman. He seems very knowledgeable and Svendsen's has a good rep.Craig Newto...
Dec 01, 2004 - 01:59 pm - I think that the profurl's appeal has waned some. The new company owners have raised prices and talk around the dock had left support issues ringing t...
Dec 02, 2004 - 03:44 am - in answer to your question about the need for the staysail, I would suggest "yes" it is still necessary. When tacking, I find the staysail kee...
Dec 03, 2004 - 12:11 am - Thanks for all the input.I ended up ordering from Kern Sails - a Furlex furler kit w/ headstay and 300 SF. Yankee.Hope to have installed next month.Ro...
Dec 03, 2004 - 01:53 pm - I just removed the staysail boom from my WS32. I can tell you having it out of the way *really* frees up the foredeck. Almost like having a ne...
Dec 07, 2004 - 06:47 am - Jay, I just have tracks mounted to the cabin top with a roller (please excuse my ignorance, I don't know the proper names) and the ropes just pass ont...
Dec 08, 2004 - 01:00 am - Rob, thanks for the link and photo -- that will help. Your boat looks ready for a long trip!!Here are a few shots of Pygmalion.http://external.pasco.c...

Furling Gear   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Mar 13, 2008 - 06:37 pm - We have recently bought a W42 cutter/ketch which still had much of her original gear.Is the old Schaeffer furling gear under-sized for this boat?
Mar 14, 2008 - 10:45 am - Don't know about the Schaefer but the FaMet we have on our 42 works great and doesn't require a halyard to keep it up. Sweet!Fair Winds

Gaff Rig   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Mar 24, 2005 - 01:41 am - do any design plans exist for a Gaff Rigged Westsail 32, any assistance would be appreciated.
Mar 24, 2005 - 03:21 am - Contact Mike Dougan, our estimed Membership Dude through this site. He has a gorgeous gaff rigged 32 and will be able to provide you with plenty of in...

Garhauer Rope Vangs   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Mar 31, 2009 - 08:50 pm - Check this out... seems like a good deal. The blocks alone are probably worth the pricehttp://garhauermarine.com/index.cfm
Apr 17, 2009 - 01:36 am - I bought two of these for an endeavor I am working on. One for a vang and one for a main sheet. I also have one on my W32 for a main sheet. We bought ...
Apr 17, 2009 - 02:31 am - They are a good deal, however at these prices they do not have snap shackles on the ends. Regular shackles. The ones I make up all have snap shackles ...
Apr 17, 2009 - 02:30 pm - Whats your price for one with a snap shackle Bud?
Apr 17, 2009 - 03:19 pm - Gary, The pricing is in my Westsail Service Manual, Page A-17. I will send you the page by email.

Genoa Experiment -   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Mar 14, 2009 - 05:45 pm - Yesterday, Craig Newton and I experimented on Pygmalion with a old hang-on Genoa (?) with the hanks removed (the furling head sail precludes using han...
Mar 14, 2009 - 05:59 pm - I also have kept the luff wire in the sail.Issues were:We jibed as tacking just seemed impossible to control the sail. I also had to hand walk the she...
Mar 15, 2009 - 04:42 am - Jay,What about one of those continuous line luff furlers? Colligo Marine (probably others) make them for Code Zeros, gennakers, etc.Jeff
Mar 15, 2009 - 01:36 pm - Jeff: The Colligo Marine model looks interesting. Looking at the design, I'm assuming it is designed to be installed all the time - I'd need to add su...
Mar 15, 2009 - 02:49 pm - Jay,Beth and Evans have an article that you can download at http://www.bethandevans.com/pdf/LightAirsail.pdfThey use a Fancor. Info at http://www.facn...
Mar 15, 2009 - 09:00 pm - Hi Jeff: Thanks for the info -- I'll check it out.Keep a diary of your remasting work as the windblown folks and the rest of the group is interested i...
Apr 19, 2009 - 01:42 pm - At the Oakland "sail only" boat show, I purcased a "Tacker" (www.atninc.com) to secure the "Tack" of the Genoa around the furl...
Apr 19, 2009 - 03:04 pm - Jay, I have been making up a vang for the tack of a cruising spinnaker. Consists of a Garhauer series 25 fiddle block with snap shackle, a single bloc...
Apr 19, 2009 - 03:43 pm - Bud:I may have the fittings on board as spares. Can you point out the exact Garhauer device at the link below.http://www.mauriprosailing.com/Merchant2...
Apr 19, 2009 - 07:23 pm - Jay, The blocks are not on that page you sent.If you go to the Garhauer catalog, www.garhauermarine.com/catalog.cfm, you will find the single block at...
Apr 19, 2009 - 07:27 pm - Jay, If you have your headstay and furler on the inboard hole in the eyeband, then use the forward hole to attach a D shackle. In that case, you will ...
Apr 19, 2009 - 09:53 pm - Bud:I found them with the part number 26-16 US and 25-03 US - nice of them to NOT have links to copy and paste... I'll look around and see if I have a...

Genoa Or Super Yankee?   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Oct 09, 2008 - 04:51 pm - I have a west sail 32 but don't have a good light air sail, what is the best thing a large genoa and what size or a super yankee(which I am not sure e...
Oct 09, 2008 - 06:13 pm - We gave our genoa away after purchasing a Super Yankee from Kern. This is the name he gives the jib he makes for the Westsail. Although he makes a lar...
Oct 10, 2008 - 12:49 am - Thanks, how do I find this Kern person?
Oct 10, 2008 - 05:19 pm - The number I have is (949) 645-7741 if it's not right Bud has it. Kern has been makeing sails for Westsails for along time and seems to have them dial...
Oct 14, 2008 - 04:04 pm - thanks for your help.
Oct 23, 2008 - 07:28 pm - I've had great luck with my full-battened main and cruising spinnaker in light air. Full-battened main holds its shape therefore, I believe, it is mor...
Oct 23, 2008 - 07:28 pm - Oh, and BTW, I LOVE my super yank also! Kern makes a great sail.
Jan 28, 2009 - 12:11 pm - At first I kinda balked at the price (not the cheapest) but in retrospect I'm glad I went with Kern.As Jim says, Kern has the WS32 sail plan dialed in...

Halyard Lengths   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Apr 13, 2007 - 01:08 am - Hey all,I was just about to sit down and splice out my new halyards for Pintail, but figured I'd pipe in to see if people have been happy with 100' ha...
Apr 13, 2007 - 03:23 am - Aaron:100 is probably good, 105 might be better. (I store the main halyard attached to the lifline eye on the bow pulpit hand rail). 105 give me three...
Apr 14, 2007 - 03:12 am - I supply 100' halyards with my running rigging kit for the masthead halyards.
Apr 14, 2007 - 02:29 pm - Bud,I was going to purchase a running rigging set from you, but ran across two 600' spools of VLS Pelican double braid for a bargain, so I was going t...
Apr 22, 2007 - 11:50 pm - The best I heard about length was from a rigger in Miami. He said that one (maybe all) the halyards should reach from the halyard winch to the water j...
Nov 22, 2009 - 09:50 pm - Is the 100' for a W32? What about for a W43?
Nov 23, 2009 - 03:55 pm - Halyards should be double the length of the mast plus another 15' or so. A single spreader W42/43 mast is 50', and a double spreader one is 55'. 1/2&#...

Halyards   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Aug 07, 2005 - 11:39 am - Look through any West Marine or Boat/US catalogs and talking to riggers you can find a variety of materials, all accecptable for halyards. Sta-Set X, ...
Aug 07, 2005 - 06:13 pm - I use plain, old-fashioned 7/16" Sta-set. I bought it by the spool through a local rigging company (at corporate discount through work) for about ...

Headsails   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Feb 03, 2006 - 02:05 pm - I spent my first summer with my W-32. This boat came with a huge number of sails, all made by Hood.I'm not sure what size the Yankee is. She attaches ...
Feb 03, 2006 - 04:12 pm - Since my boat is gaff-rigged, I doubt my sail plan is very normal for a westsail. My jib I'd call a Yankee, but it's a hank on, and is very high cut. ...
Feb 04, 2006 - 09:28 pm - The traveler is my favorite way to help reduce weather helm. Vanessa is only 115 pounds. When the wind picks up, she can have a difficult time maintai...
Feb 05, 2006 - 12:29 pm - You may want to look at an earlier thread Dave King who has more miles on a 32 then most westies provides insite sail management on a 32. http://www.w...
Feb 05, 2006 - 05:55 pm - Thanks for your replies. Is there any reason to keep the 150 jib? Any advice on working the code 0 would be appreciated.I will definately work with th...
Feb 05, 2006 - 06:10 pm - We gave our 150 away, as it was only used as a down wind sail. Our 300 sq.ft. form Kern balances better and the boat is faster with it. The full batte...
Feb 27, 2006 - 02:49 pm - Depending on how much rake is in the mast a slightly easierway to reduce wx helm is to stand the mast up a little more. Some wx helm is important to f...
Sep 02, 2006 - 05:36 pm - The sheets for the staysail are a mess -- the stops through which they are led don't work worth crap, so I want to replace them, and at the same time ...
Sep 02, 2006 - 09:45 pm - Terry,I don't have first hand experience with rigging stays'l sheets on a W32. That said, I can say that I do not like clutches on sheets of any sort....

Heaving To   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jul 21, 2006 - 12:36 pm - Hello All,I have been learning more about my W-32. I have tried to Heave To on the bay with winds blowing around 20. I tried just using headsails. Wit...
Jul 22, 2006 - 03:18 am - Don and MargaretI have found some sucess with a plan much as you have done.with backing the stay sail tight, but also a double reef main hauled out to...
Aug 01, 2006 - 06:40 am - I have also been experimenting with this technique. I recently bought the dvd "storm tactics" by the Pardeys. I thoroughly recommend the DVD a...
Aug 02, 2006 - 04:36 am - Remember that the basic principle of heaving to is to have the bow about 60 or so degrees off the wind so she isn't really pitch polling, but not broa...
Aug 02, 2006 - 06:37 pm - I agree with aaron. you need sail AFT on a westsail.there is so much windage already forward, especially if you have a headsail furler.The pardy's vid...
Nov 18, 2006 - 08:11 pm - I would like to hear/ or view the arrangement some of you folks use to "lash the tiller" a lee. I'm having difficulty coming up some type of s...
Nov 19, 2006 - 10:37 am - Since my last post I have had a couple of opportunities to experiment with heaving to. The most recent was in about 25knots of wind when I put 2 reefs...
Nov 21, 2006 - 08:45 am - I used the technique of double reefed main alone and tiller lashed to leeward off of a ruff Columbia River bar. The wind strength was 15 to 20 with hi...
Apr 01, 2007 - 10:19 pm - Hi, We have had heaps of heaving to practice this season in the South Pacific (I'm writing a book called "Around the World Hove-To") and after...
Apr 02, 2007 - 01:34 pm - Hi Jill,Thanks for your details on heaving-to. I wanted to have a third reef point added to my main. The sail loft I deal with suggested I forget the ...
Apr 02, 2007 - 06:38 pm - Ahoy Don,Here is one thought. First, I agree completely with your sailmaker. The important thing is, Where is the uppermost reef? On most Mainsails th...
Jun 26, 2007 - 04:20 am - Hi Don, Re: the 3rd reef thing. Our sailmaker also advised having 2 reefs then going to trysail, and this was how we set off. However after a couple o...
Apr 25, 2008 - 11:32 am - I just got a W32, have yet to bend on the main but I know it has only 2 reef points. Wouldn't I be delighted to discover that the 2nd reef point is wh...
Jun 01, 2008 - 09:59 pm - Just to throw in my two pence on the heaving to methods. This is sort of a Pardey adaption. I just had my W32 out overnight in 25 knot winds and 3-5 f...

Heavy Weather Tactics On W32   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Nov 29, 2009 - 05:51 pm - My wife won't let me go to a boat show even if we are in the neighborhood; because I'm a sucker for sales pitches and might spend too much money. Neve...
Dec 01, 2009 - 02:27 am - Dick and Libby, Your question is a short one with a long answer. I have owned my W32 Patience for almost seventeen years with two trips out to the...
Dec 02, 2009 - 02:10 pm - Can't say it any better than Lee has.Would add that you should check out our page under the Member's Websites for the real story of Satori in the Perf...
Dec 02, 2009 - 05:11 pm - Here is that picture of Satori taken from a Coast Guard helicopter.
Dec 02, 2009 - 05:26 pm - Lee,What kind of droque do you recommend, and how do you deploy it?Frank
Dec 02, 2009 - 06:49 pm - Note. When I bought Satori from Ray he told me that he dropped a small backpack on the side deck by the aft stay that had his camera, passport and ca...
Dec 02, 2009 - 07:09 pm - Frank & Mel, I have a Jordan series drogue. You can find info on the internet. You can buy one , make one from a kit(sailrite) or make your ...
Dec 03, 2009 - 03:39 pm - Looks like I may have a dog in this hunt. I have no real storm at sea experience but I may get some. Just know what I've read, and that a lot depends ...
Dec 03, 2009 - 05:07 pm - Lying ahull and heaving-to will work up to the point when waves begin curling and beaking (so I've read), because of the risk of getting rolled. Lying...
Dec 03, 2009 - 05:43 pm - More on this subject can be read on The Queens Birthday Storm where the W32 "Pilot" was rolled the couple rescued and the westsail scuttled. ...
Dec 04, 2009 - 02:29 am - Thanks Lee. That was a really good read. Deserves several readings.
Dec 04, 2009 - 03:25 am - OK, I'll ask a stupid question: Where do I lead the sheets on a storm sail? I'm assuming that it isn't attached to the boom but is more or less free-f...
Dec 04, 2009 - 05:42 pm - Terry, Good question. My trysail has a single sheet that goes through a turning block at the sampson post and to the cockpit winch. You can mou...
Dec 04, 2009 - 06:06 pm - Lee,The article did not mention the "Pilot," unless I missed it. Is this boat the only W32 that has been lost at sea? Also, that article and o...
Dec 04, 2009 - 06:47 pm - Regarding the article on drag devices, keep in mind most of those boats were 'race' boats, ie; fin keels, spade rudders. They need to bo slowed down a...
Dec 04, 2009 - 07:23 pm - So...Dick,I think that's loose the parachute, keep the drogue, and practice setting up the storm sails.I should qualify my "expertise" as limi...
Dec 04, 2009 - 09:18 pm - Some extra thoughtswithin a wave (near surface)the uplift; (as the wave is overtaking you) is a flow from the trough to the crest i.e. you have flow p...
Dec 04, 2009 - 09:53 pm - "Is this boat the only W32 that has been lost at sea?"Unfortunately no. I first fell in love with the W32 after seeing s/v Azure in Moorea. Sh...
Dec 05, 2009 - 01:09 am - For those wanting to read about W32 "pilot" that was scuttled in the Queens Birthday Storm, the book to read is "Rescue in the Pacific"...
Dec 05, 2009 - 05:51 pm - If you are not tired of me yet, lets take a look at the picture of Satori on the beach. We can learn a few things here. Her jibsail has been taken of...
Dec 05, 2009 - 07:27 pm - If I remember correctly, Ray told me he set Satori to track west. Hoping to beach on the southern half of New Jersey. That is where he searched after...
Dec 06, 2009 - 12:23 am - Lee,No need to give this a rest. It's a fascinating, and very informative set of postings.Ralph
Dec 07, 2009 - 04:23 pm - After I last posted to this thread, I found a description of what happened to the SV Pilot on the Latitude38.com site:"Pilot, a Maine-based Westsa...

Help! Tack Hook Pic   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jun 23, 2009 - 09:09 pm - I'm looking for the Tack hook pic that someone had posted here. I don't have one and am going to have one made for our boat. Our sparmaker was the Sup...
Jun 24, 2009 - 12:00 am - Talk to Rodney at LeFiell...he helped me with my mast. I'm sure they would sell you one, its got to be less expensive than having one fabricated
Jun 24, 2009 - 10:24 pm - G,I tried that route. Never received a reply even after I talked to him / them and sent them the measurements.I too think it would be cheaper than hav...
Jun 25, 2009 - 10:36 pm - Dave, I have seen commercially available ones made from 1/4" SS rod, with a loop formed at one end to bolt through a gooseneck fitting. I am away ...
Jun 26, 2009 - 04:00 am - I'll take a picture of mine tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009 - 11:04 am - Thanks Gary, You too Bud, but as to the commercial ones there so far isn't really any I like. I'm in Annapolis and been looking at everything.
Jun 27, 2009 - 10:11 pm - here we go. the hook is 3" high and 1" wide
Jul 01, 2009 - 12:23 pm - Thanks,I've printed them out. Our SS guys are showing up this am. I have a couple of others I'll be discussing with them.

Isomat Spars   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Nov 03, 2007 - 02:32 am - Does anybody have these spars on their W32?I'm looking for some pictures of a boat with an isomat mast and boom.Thanks for any help

Jib Bags   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Dec 27, 2004 - 03:29 am - I just removed the boom from my staysail and got a new Yankee (and Mainsail) from Kern so now I'm going to need new jib bags.My current jib bag allows...
Dec 30, 2004 - 03:08 pm - Not so much handy, but more to keep the bag off the deck.
Dec 31, 2004 - 12:56 am - As much I figured. I'd first thought the design allowed both the sail to remain hanked on and the halyard to remain on the sail until I noticed the ba...
Dec 31, 2004 - 12:45 pm - Yes, but it keeps them drained and dry.

Kern   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

May 27, 2008 - 04:16 am - Going to add a profurl this summer and need a new head sail, is Kern Ferguson still around? All you Super Yankee flyers, are you happy with it or is a...
May 27, 2008 - 05:44 am - Last week I installed my new Mainsail/Staysail and Yankee from Kern Sails.. His Tele # is 946-645-7741. It can be a challenge tracking him down....it'...
May 29, 2008 - 12:14 am - Thanks for the reply Joshua, congrats of the new set of Kern sails. Your point is well taken, and could your be more specific about the Yankee you cho...
Jun 16, 2008 - 11:04 pm - Joshua, from your experience with the super yankee, I decided on a 300 sq ft yankee instead. Ordered from Kern. Thanks for the info.RegardsDoug

LazyJacks   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Dec 01, 2004 - 02:22 pm - I just got my new (fully battened mainsail & yankee) sails from Kern. Being singlehanded I decided I could use some 'help' to make it easier to ma...
Dec 01, 2004 - 03:43 pm - I would say it would be cheaper to make your own.Anyone who can splice 3 strand line could do it. I think you would also have to spend some time adjus...
Dec 01, 2004 - 05:50 pm - I have been supplying the parts for a lazyjack system for the Westsail 32 for just over $100.00, using 3/8" yachtbraid line. I also have a drawing...
Jul 22, 2008 - 04:05 pm - Mike - I'd be interested to know how happy you are with the fully-battened main. Kern is recommended the same for me as a replacement. I'm just a bit ...
Jul 22, 2008 - 10:42 pm - using a lazy jack kit with blocks, rings and polyester line can be very hard on your sail.i use a kit made of dyneema single braids that is easy on th...
Jul 23, 2008 - 12:41 am - Brian:I am looking at flaking systems. would be interested in seeing your designrgdsMike
Jul 23, 2008 - 01:47 am - Consider a dutchman system, and take a look at the "Dutchman type flaking system" thread about 7 or 8 items down in the discussion topics unde...
Jul 23, 2008 - 03:59 am - Further,Consider a stackpack. Make dealing with and keep your main in good shape easy as it's really easy to zip up and keep it out of the sun.Stackpa...
Jul 23, 2008 - 01:05 pm - Ralph, saw your system which looks like a good one. I dont have battens in my main so wonder if it still would work. Otherwise, i guess this would onl...
Jul 24, 2008 - 02:10 am - What's needed to make this un-named system work is for you to lash the boom to the gallows and then pull down on each ring as you lower the sail. This...
Jul 24, 2008 - 02:24 am - Thanks ralph. Would love to see some pictures. That would help a lotthanksMike
Jul 26, 2008 - 03:52 am - Ralph, I would like to see pictures too. I am not fully visualizing the system you have. As they say, "A picture is worth a thousand words." S...

LEE HELM   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jul 17, 2008 - 10:53 pm - So our new boat, nee Fleetwood Sun, sails with wicked lee helm. our last three westsails have had varing degrees of weather helm, but not this boat. A...
Jul 19, 2008 - 04:36 pm - Brian,If your boat is floating low in the bow, that will tilt the mast and whole rig forward, effectively shifting the sail's pressure (center of effo...
Jul 20, 2008 - 01:39 pm - I am thinking it has more to do with the hull trim than rig rake ( in that the bow-down boat moves both the depth of keel shallower aft and the rig ra...
Jul 20, 2008 - 09:17 pm - Brian:I am a bit surprised at your questions considering you claim to be a rigger.The center of effort adjustment is = to about 30% of the mast head m...
Jul 21, 2008 - 12:37 am - Thanks for your response to "hoping another owner has a battenless sail and can confirm this produces good helm when the boat is on her lines"...
Jul 21, 2008 - 06:41 am - I am so happy that you understand boat mechanics as well as any. So here is wishing you good luck on your rigging and sailing.
Jul 21, 2008 - 01:45 pm - Come on, guys, let's be nice! Life's too short to be snipping at each other.
Jul 21, 2008 - 09:34 pm - yea mon, yagot dat right mon.This is supposed to be about Happy Times !

Lee Sails   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Mar 05, 2009 - 07:37 pm - Has anyone tried Lee sails? The prices are 1/2 of what others are asking....whats the catch?
Mar 05, 2009 - 08:21 pm - Gary,They're made overseas - Hong Kong. I know a few people with their sails and all are happy. However, the benefits of using a local loft, or someon...
Mar 05, 2009 - 10:30 pm - Gary,I must admit that I agree with Aaron N.A friend of mine (with a sloop rig about the size of our 32a) got a new half price mainsl built overseas. ...
Mar 05, 2009 - 10:34 pm - One more thing,I've only sailed Satori a few days, but when the wind kicked up and was hitting us on the nose in the open Gulf- and against the flow o...
Mar 06, 2009 - 12:34 am - How much did you spend on your main Randy?
Mar 06, 2009 - 01:10 am - I don't know about all this talk of tweaking. All of the lofts I have talked to have made sails for W32's and the measurements are pretty simple. Sure...
Mar 06, 2009 - 01:14 am - Disclaimer:I know next to nothing about sails!
Mar 07, 2009 - 02:49 am - Am sorry I have no firm number on the main, but I think it was about $2800 with your specs plus triple reef points, hand sewn rings, gringles, leather...
Mar 07, 2009 - 03:42 am - Our W42 has had Lee sails, since 1974. Stitching fine, not too sure they have had a great deal of hard sailing. Jib needs replacing, so I emailed Lee ...
Mar 10, 2009 - 04:32 am - OK - so I'm at the happiest place on earth and its 6.8 miles from Kern sails (as the crow flies)Tomorrow I plan to make the pilgrimage and study at th...
Mar 10, 2009 - 01:57 pm - Can't go wrong with Kern Sails.Congratulations on the preliminary decision and best of luck.
Mar 10, 2009 - 05:25 pm - Gary, If you are in Newport Beach, give me a call and we can meet.
Mar 10, 2009 - 10:04 pm - Gary - I hope you can make it to this year's Rendezvous, I'd also like to meet, as I was also "born in South Africa"!Regards,ColleenP.S. I'm s...
Mar 11, 2009 - 10:03 pm - Hey Bud - stopped off at your office but you were out. Probably having martini's with a customer somewhere....Colleen, where in SA are you from? I gre...
Mar 11, 2009 - 11:44 pm - Hi Gary-I was born in Johannesburg, we left when I was 8 for Canada. But I went to live back there for a while at 18, and continue to visit every 5 ye...
Mar 12, 2009 - 01:09 am - Congratulations on your sail purchase.Am about to make final settlement and take possession of my main. It was about the price I told you.
Mar 12, 2009 - 03:55 am - Happy tweaking Randy!
Mar 12, 2009 - 04:57 am - Gary,What style of main did you decide on? Full batten/roach as Kern suggests?Thanks,Aaron
Mar 12, 2009 - 10:08 pm - Aaron - yes. I realise that this will probably shorten the life of the sail but I feel the positives outweigh the negatives.I hope to race the boat lo...
Mar 13, 2009 - 12:40 am - Gary,I'm not sure. I'll probably do whatever Porpoise sail's suggests. I've done a bunch of patching to my main, so we're going to try to eek another ...
Mar 13, 2009 - 02:07 am - Colleen - unfortunately we won't be at the rendezvous... its a 12 hour drive from where we live.If you're ever up in the southern Oregon area stop by ...
Mar 15, 2009 - 01:01 pm - My first boat had Lee sails, a 1977 CT 42 ketch. They were pretty good sails too. I had a 150 Genoa, main and mizzen. I had a new set made by Morrelli...

Looking For Storm Sails   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jan 29, 2010 - 04:29 pm - If anyone has any W32 storm sails that they will not be using and would consider selling them to an owner heading offshore to Spain, please let me kno...

Loose Footed Main   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Dec 11, 2006 - 06:49 pm - I was thinking of removing the slugs from the foot of my main. Any thought? Thanks.
Dec 12, 2006 - 03:46 am - Dave,I've seen mains that were cut with slugs for the foot go loose, but it never seems to make a pretty picture. The shape of the very bottom of a sa...

Loose Footed Staysail Sheet Length   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jan 24, 2005 - 03:11 pm - I just removed the boom to convert the staysail to be loose-footed.I plan to rig it per a tip from Bud to enable it to be 'self tending', i.e. run the...

Loose-footed Stays'l   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Feb 03, 2010 - 06:51 pm - For general info:This is from Kern in an article in the Fall 2002 Windblown:"As for track placement for the free footed sail, I would like to see ...
Feb 03, 2010 - 07:01 pm - That is where I show it in my Westsail Service Manual for the W32.

Mainsail Shaping   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Feb 07, 2005 - 04:21 am - I have the 'standard' mainsheet rigging... No mainsheet traveler, just a couple blocks on the boomkin that run to/from a double block at the end of th...
Feb 08, 2005 - 05:47 am - Ahoy Mike, I also use end boom sheeting. I also do not use a standard vang. I have a heavy duty nylon strap around the boom at about the 1/3 aft point...
Feb 08, 2005 - 01:22 pm - That's exactly what I was thinking of doing. I like the nylon/rubber strap idea... it eliminates me having to install a bail on the boom. Especially s...
Feb 09, 2005 - 02:59 am - The extra tackle on deck from the "lazy vang" means one more step. It has not been an issue for me.When I sold my first W-32 I let the big rub...
Feb 14, 2005 - 02:07 pm - Since I don't have any mid mooring cleats (avoiding any 'toe stubbers' on deck) I'm wondering if it would be OK to use a 'pad eye' type slide on the g...
Feb 14, 2005 - 03:32 pm - Mike,How about a rubber mooring snubber?Jeff
Feb 14, 2005 - 07:39 pm - We have pad eyes on the inside of the gunnal with backing plates. Our preventers are made from Garhaur blocks and attached to a nylon strap like Daves...
Feb 15, 2005 - 01:03 pm - What I am thinking would be an ideal shock absorber is a flat rubber strap.A flat strap would be more likely to stay in place better (vs a round 'bung...
Feb 16, 2005 - 05:37 pm - On my current 32 Pablo, we use a track car on the rail for a moveable vang placement. The vang has snap shackles on the lower ends of the two separate...
Feb 16, 2005 - 06:28 pm - Now that's a great idea about replacing the aft stay pins with shackles.Good to hear the track will handle the vang/preventer load. It seemed like suc...
Feb 17, 2005 - 01:02 am - The red rubber snubber is a device made just for this purpose. It has large bronze eyelets with about 1 inch openings in them the other end of the bro...
Feb 18, 2005 - 01:48 pm - I got some good ideas from the CWBB board. I think I'll use this one:Use a nylon strap (wide enough to distribute the load over the boom). Wrap the st...

Mainsail Swivel Jam Cleat   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Oct 20, 2006 - 11:33 am - I picked up a nice beefy swivel jam cleat for the mainsail sheet at a local swapmeet. It is on a 1" track.Thing is, I'd like to install it on the ...
Oct 20, 2006 - 04:56 pm - Mike, I would recommend drilling out the holes to accept 5/16" bolts. #10 sized bolts may not hold in the event of a jibe.

Mainsheet Blocks   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Dec 17, 2009 - 06:51 pm - How many blocks do you have on your mainsheet?Presently I have 2 blocks with a total of 4 sheeves and the block with the Cam Cleat is on the hoop abov...
Dec 19, 2009 - 05:15 pm - Sounds like your problem could be getting a fair lead.... So,My boat has two blocks on the boomkin, one port and one stbdd., and two blocks on the hoo...
Dec 22, 2009 - 07:21 pm - The standard block used there, from a horrible (in my opinion, from experience) company named Garhauer, has the cam cleat fixed in one angle, one conf...
Jan 04, 2010 - 05:47 pm - Thanks for the info. With that and Buds advise, I got the situation resolved for easy sheeting.
Jan 04, 2010 - 06:13 pm - What did you end up doing Jean?
Jan 04, 2010 - 08:48 pm - I am making a new stern pulpit for him with two straps on the hoop for a double block on each one. He is going to put three blocks on the boom. That w...
Jan 10, 2010 - 04:13 pm - I generally deficit spend when I put my two cents in ........but here goes. Just for the record, we like Garhauer and their products. We use them on a...
Jan 10, 2010 - 05:42 pm - Garhauer is great, Wonderful service and product. I just installed the Davits for our w42.I was based in Sourthern California fighting wildland fires ...
Jan 11, 2010 - 06:19 am - My few cents,I do like Garhauer for their affordability, but I do not think they have particularly quality stuff. It seems like any of their hardware ...
Jan 12, 2010 - 01:59 pm - I have found that using Garhauer is false economy. The stainless steel does not last. I know of Garhauer products as young as two years old that have ...
Jan 12, 2010 - 08:32 pm - We began to change over to Garhaur as soon as we discovered them. I have no idea how old some of it is but it has held up perfectly. This is with 14 y...

Mainsheet Cam Cleat?   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Apr 19, 2005 - 01:50 pm - This is directed to those with the 'end of boom' mainsheet rigging:My mainsheet simply exits the portside block on the boomkin and is tied off to the ...
Apr 20, 2005 - 05:22 am - Ahoy Mike,I use exactly what you are contemptating, on Saraband. It is mounted on the starboard side and has never been a problem. It certainly is mor...

Mast Height   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jan 29, 2009 - 03:43 am - I don't seem to be able to find the mast height for the Westsail 32. Where should I look to find it?Thanks
Jan 29, 2009 - 05:24 am - I think Orion's is 44'...
Jan 29, 2009 - 02:05 pm - On a W28 it's 40' from the top of the mast to the waterline and 35' to the tabernacle so 44' for a W32 sounds about right.
Jan 29, 2009 - 02:59 pm - The standard Westsail 32 has a 43' mast, measured from the cabintop. Allow about 5' from the cabintop to the waterline, and you have a 48' overall hei...
Jan 29, 2009 - 07:05 pm - Bud,What is the bridge clearance for the various configurations of the W42/43? Just in case I ever wanted to upgrade from my 32.Frank
Jan 30, 2009 - 04:58 pm - The masts for the Westsail 42 and 43 were 50' or 55', depending on what was ordered. Probably add about 5' from cabintop to waterline, plus some for a...
Jan 31, 2009 - 05:39 am - Thanks for all the replies!

New Assymetric Spinnaker   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Mar 22, 2006 - 01:42 pm - I got a chance to use our new sail last week. Here we are in light air in the gulf stream off of florida.This sail has a 44.5 foot luff. I know there ...
Mar 22, 2006 - 06:49 pm - Looks like your get in some sailing time. Fantastic.I think the post you are refering to was under buds/ w32 drifter.The item I originaly presented as...
Mar 23, 2006 - 12:58 am - as to where the turning block is, I fit a snatch block to a stern cleat. seemed ok. I don't know the leach length. I will post when I can. I bought th...
Feb 23, 2007 - 02:33 am - Hi Rich,Great looking sail. I wish my asymetrical still looked this good! I see you have a head sail furler. I just installed one myself. Love it. How...
Feb 23, 2007 - 03:11 am - Don't know about the situation at the masthead. I do know that you can use a screw-style shackle if you get one with a hole in the thumbscrew and mous...
Feb 23, 2007 - 03:30 am - Good day Steve and Vanessa:I am not sure How Rich did his, but I attempted flying a drifter 440 Ft sq. and found in about 30 min I HAD SAWED THROUGH 2...
Feb 24, 2007 - 01:44 am - Great idea Norm! Why didn't I think of that?Bolt on plate seems to be an excellent solution. Thanks for the idea!
Feb 24, 2007 - 05:55 pm - sorry I have not posted about this, I must have been asleep at the switch.I got a bail from Bud. it has two holes for 1/4 inch fasteners. I drilled an...
Feb 24, 2007 - 07:28 pm - I recommend a simple block and tackle attached to the tack of the sail, with snap shackles on both ends. Similar to a boom vang, but you can use small...
May 15, 2008 - 12:49 am - Rich,This asymm fit OK even with such a long luff? Do you know the leech/foot measurements?Thanks!Aaron N.

New Sails   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Aug 29, 2006 - 12:43 am - Well, it looks like Inalla (WSSK0197) is due for some new sails -- I think the ones I have might be the originals! Anyway, I've tried to contact Kern ...
Aug 29, 2006 - 01:53 am - I would try that loft in port townsend. I have heard nothing but good things about her.
Aug 31, 2006 - 06:07 pm - I can usually always get Kern on his cell phone 949-903-5376.
Sep 01, 2006 - 04:02 am - Ahoy Terry, Give the little guy another try. I usually have luck at kernsails@sbcglobal.netGood luck
Sep 01, 2006 - 04:36 am - Kern did call me back, so I'll keep in on the "short list" for sails when the time comes.Still want to look at North and Ullman, though -- any...

New Sails   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Nov 30, 2006 - 10:51 pm - O.K. it is time. So, I would like some input and testimonials as to sailmakers if you would. We thought we would prefer a no roach/no-batten main. How...
Nov 30, 2006 - 11:24 pm - Good day Cathy and GeraldMy post is not on sail makers but ref to what I am using in light and regular airsI use a Kern Yankie cut jib of about 215 &#...
Dec 03, 2006 - 09:29 pm - Norm, thanks for the input. Tell me about changeing head sails and storage of the larger sail. David King, I read an earlier string where you talked a...
Dec 04, 2006 - 12:34 am - Gerald:The head sail thing for me is usally an all day thing (i.e. start small 215 stay that way 8hr min to be worth a sail change to the 300 on a foi...
Dec 05, 2006 - 01:03 am - Ahoy Gerald & Cathy,Kern Ferguson made Saraband's Main. Actually Jodene did the making, as Kern sat around eating popcorn. It has full length batt...
Dec 09, 2006 - 03:53 am - Dave, Thanks for the info. You said, when new, the corners and reef points were reinforced with Kevlar. Were these areas redone in Dacron later? How i...
Dec 10, 2006 - 12:43 am - Ahoy C&G,I see I'm not getting much past you. Yes, the Kevlar has been replaced. Though very strong, the Kevlar is also relatively brittle. It beg...
Dec 11, 2006 - 02:31 am - Dave, is the foot on your main free or attached. I was thinking of removing the slugs from the foot of mine. Any thought? Thanks.
Dec 11, 2006 - 04:31 am - Dave,As always a wealth of information. It may take a bit of time before we make the leap (if we were fast we would own a motor boat).Thanks againCath...
Aug 04, 2008 - 01:55 am - Gerald and Cathy....did you end up getting a new main? Interested to know how things turned out as we are getting ready to order some sails.Thanks for...
Sep 18, 2008 - 02:31 am - I was just quoted a price on a new staysail, and the loft suggested small battens and a single reef. Does anyone else have battens or reefs in their s...
Sep 18, 2008 - 03:39 am - Frank,I have a reef in my stays'l and have used it. I suggest it - also, make sure it's good, strong material as it's the last thing you take down bef...
Oct 10, 2008 - 01:21 am - Ahoy Gang,Just my $.02 depreciated cents.Satori's old saiils are in the hands of the sailmaker who actually built the sails for Ray Leonard in the lat...

New Sails - Sailmaker Referrals   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Dec 04, 2008 - 03:44 pm - I am a new member of the forum. Looking to buy a W32 which needs new sails.Any recommendations per sailmakers and set.I understand there is a weather ...
Dec 04, 2008 - 03:56 pm - Kern knows the boat better than any other sailmakers.kernsails@netzero.net but he's not really response (in the past) to emails to best to call 949 64...
Dec 04, 2008 - 04:51 pm - Kern rarely answers his shop phone. Better to call him on his cell phone 949-903-5376.
Dec 06, 2008 - 07:49 pm - I agree Kern knows the boats overall better than anyone.The firm of Gambrell and Hunter Sailmakers in Maine worked on my boat for over twenty years. E...

Norseman Or Sta-Lok?   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Mar 07, 2006 - 06:36 pm - Which do people recommend?I'm about to make some mods to my rigging (roller furling, backstay insulators) and need to decide between Norseman & St...
Mar 08, 2006 - 04:13 am - I'd go for which is more readily available. Look at a West Marine catalog and see which they carry. When you are down there in the Rio Dulce, which on...
Mar 08, 2006 - 08:48 pm - Good day Mike:I have both and My preference is for the Sta-lok as they seam a bit easyer to install and seam marginaly better in quality.also the Nors...
Mar 09, 2006 - 05:21 am - Ahoy Mike,I have used both the Sta-lok and the Norseman. I prefer the Sta-lok. They are more forgiving during installation if you were to just slightl...
Mar 16, 2006 - 02:51 am - I just was in a yard working on my rig. There was a guy who was rerigging a Van DeStadt 50 foot boat that had the rig come down. It is an older boat. ...
Sep 06, 2009 - 01:17 pm - Just found my boat W32 has Norseman fittings, that I thought, erroneously, were Stalocks.My dock mate, Bob, tells me they are an older model like he h...
Sep 06, 2009 - 07:02 pm - We have used both, but after installing Hayn failsafe isolaters we will now use Hayn. The main advantage is they can be disassembled and reused withou...
Sep 06, 2009 - 08:11 pm - The cones on the norsemans are not reusable Randy. The cone is the smallest part of the 3 part norseman that the wire wraps around...it does not have ...
Sep 06, 2009 - 08:19 pm - Thanks for the very quick responses.I got a ham radio on the boat and afterwards the license to broadcast from it. So, isolators are a very Big deal t...
Sep 06, 2009 - 11:04 pm - Try Hi-mod. Hayn.I have the insulators and they are really good. Jim is correct that they are failsafe. The rig cannot come down even in the event of ...
Sep 07, 2009 - 04:03 am - Two years ago when I needed to replace a boomkim whiskerstay that had a cracked swaged fitting I decided to try a mechanical fitting. Then if I needed...
Sep 07, 2009 - 01:13 pm - Wow, thanks, guys, did I nearly make a mistake.
Sep 08, 2009 - 11:09 am - I'll second George's recommendation on both Hayn and riggingonly.com. I've used the Hi-Mod fittings and am very satisfied with the ease of installatio...
Jan 03, 2010 - 07:06 pm - Installation report, Staloks, replaced to date.Got wire precut from Bud. Very nice.Yesterday was day four of my standing rigging replacement project. ...
Jan 03, 2010 - 08:44 pm - Randy, use a chop saw with a cut off wheel to cut the wire. Two of us managed to do all the standing rigging on my boat in about 4 hours (conservative...
Jan 03, 2010 - 09:22 pm - I use a 4" high speed grinder with a thin blade cutoff wheel for metal. Works fine. You can also use it to smooth off the cut ends so they fit nic...
Jan 05, 2010 - 02:39 am - Great ideas. Thanks. I was wondering about whether one could pull wires from attachments at the top of the mast and cut on board.Also, though I tried ...
Jan 05, 2010 - 12:03 pm - Randy, We used some Hayn Hi-Mod fittings when we did some recent work on our standing rigging. The fittings are completely reusable and are easy to as...
Jan 12, 2010 - 02:05 pm - The correct tool to cut the wire is a hacksaw, or a thin cutoff wheel (as Bud said). This is because all these fittings use pressure against the end o...
Jan 18, 2010 - 12:17 pm - Am progressing nicely albeit very slowly with the cutoff wheel. In the lower shrouds, alot of the old Staloks have had to be drilled out to free the o...
Jan 18, 2010 - 03:10 pm - They were onboard, from what I can gather, in the 1991 Halloween storm, and Hurricane Ike. They held through both. So, I'm going to quit complaining. ...

Outhaul And Reefing Winches W32   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Mar 28, 2009 - 06:19 pm - What size are people using....?Thanks for any input
Mar 28, 2009 - 09:34 pm - Gary, You really do not need a winch for the outhaul, but you should have a 2 to 1 purchase on it. The outhaul line should be fixed on one side at the...
Mar 29, 2009 - 02:17 am - There are a pair of #6 Lewmars for sale on Craiglist - $100 for the pair and they are immaculate. Too small for reefing?I can't imagine I'll need too ...
Mar 29, 2009 - 02:41 am - At that price you can't go wrong. They have a 6.8 to 1 gear ratio, and a 2.4 to 1 power ratio. That should be sufficient for tightening a reef with th...
Mar 31, 2009 - 03:04 am - Anyone care to chime in about size of reefing winches....?
Mar 31, 2009 - 04:23 am - Gary,With our little sails, you don't need much at all. We have one of the small, single speed Lewmar winches. About 5" tall, 3" diameter. It ...
Mar 31, 2009 - 01:01 pm - Even going downwind Aaron? You don't know what size it is do you?Thanks
Mar 31, 2009 - 01:11 pm - Gary,The reefing winches on our W28 are Barlow 15. For comparison sake, they are the same size as used for all three of our halyards.-Steve
Mar 31, 2009 - 06:38 pm - I am currently using Barrnet #10 single speed, which works OK for downwind reefing .That said, I seldom down wind reef, why add to my work? I normally...
Mar 31, 2009 - 06:59 pm - Thanks all!
Apr 01, 2009 - 04:20 am - Gary,I just remembered - we have a Barient 10 for the reefing winch, and our stays'l halyard. Barient 16s on the main and jib halyards, small Lewmar s...

Pointing And Tacking   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jun 08, 2004 - 04:27 pm - This question is not exactly a sail plan question , but it is related. I have experience with a sloop but not with a cutter. I recently bought a W32 a...
Jun 09, 2004 - 12:55 am - hi,i have found it best to let the head sail(s) get back winded to help the bow through a tack.thanks
Jun 09, 2004 - 05:29 am - Ahoy Joaquim,In 40k winds foreward of the beam, I would not have any headsail out. I would probably be double reefed with a staysail and have my runni...
Jun 09, 2004 - 06:41 pm - Thanks to both of you for your comments.I live in San Francisco, and the boat is at Oyster Point. If you live anywhere near I would love any advise yo...

Position Of Mast On Raised Step W32   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

May 27, 2008 - 01:57 am - Since I'm about to mount my tabernacle for the first time I thought it would be interesting to find out where others have theirs. Our boat is 119 (fir...
May 27, 2008 - 01:00 pm - To make sure the stays are correct you need to have the mast base centered on the upper shrouds so the mast is pulled in column. If you move the base ...
May 27, 2008 - 01:37 pm - Dave - I have noticed that the upper shrouds (middle chainplate) on one of the boats I have looked does not line up with the spreaders and top of the ...
May 27, 2008 - 06:54 pm - The chainplates need to line up w/ the base of the mast, as the shroud rises to the top of the mast the pull is in the column of the mast. The lowers ...
May 27, 2008 - 08:17 pm - I wonder if anyone knows for sure if changing the mast step position will alter the handling of the boat. Your comment about the cap shroud chainplate...
May 27, 2008 - 10:20 pm - When you move the mast position along the boat, you move the center of lateral force of the sails along the boat. When you change the lie of the boat ...
May 27, 2008 - 10:24 pm - Gary & Chrlotte:One point of ref.location of tarbenacial Base plate is 8.75" back from the top front of the rasied section and the back side i...
May 27, 2008 - 10:36 pm - Norm: We're re-standing the mast this week (Hull 610) and will be tuning the rig. I joined the Yahoo group a few weeks ago but have never been able to...
May 27, 2008 - 10:58 pm - Norm - did you position the tabernacle there? All the boats I've looked at have the base right in the middle of the raised step
May 27, 2008 - 11:16 pm - Ralph:The rig tension thing is in theDatbase on the left menu then just Rig Tension W32.Gary: The mast was in place before I purchased the boat, it wa...
May 28, 2008 - 02:43 am - Very interesting Norm. Thank you
May 28, 2008 - 03:22 am - Do the capshroud chainplates line up with the base of the mast Norm? Athwartship that is..
May 28, 2008 - 04:13 am - Yes for the most part the bolts are 1/2" forward of the bulkhead (= Chainplate was a pain to replace as the nuts were up aginst the bulkhead) and ...
May 28, 2008 - 10:48 pm - Just measured tabernacle position and alignment relative to chainplates. On Hull 610 (factory) the distance from the lip of the "platform" to ...
May 29, 2008 - 02:10 am - Thanks for that Ralph. Mine is going to end up slightly aft of center like yours when I line up the tabernacle pin with the upper shroud chainplates. ...
May 29, 2008 - 10:39 pm - Still in the process of stepping the mast and re-rigging so cannot give a personall yes/no. But previous owner says there were none. If I find too muc...
Jul 31, 2009 - 11:10 pm - First some background. My boat was circumnavigated by her prior owner but was on the hard when I bought her and has spent the past 5 years behind my h...
Aug 01, 2009 - 12:22 am - Tom, My drawings show the centerline of the bolts on the center chainplate to be 2" aft of the main bulkhead. The mast is 25'- 2" fron the bow...
Aug 01, 2009 - 12:30 am - Thanks Bud. I also emailed the original owner and he indicated that the position was never a problem. Could you confirm the 25'-2" dimension seems...
Aug 01, 2009 - 03:39 am - Tom, Bud,I understand what you mean about not wanting to move the chainplates after painting. I just finished repainting the hull after glassing in al...
Aug 01, 2009 - 03:36 pm - Tom, My apologies about the distance back from the bow. I was reading the wrong scale on my ruler. The 12'- 8-3/4" dimension is the correct one. T...
Aug 03, 2009 - 01:47 am - Tom - also check to make sure that the spreader tips are in fact in the middle of the mast.
Aug 03, 2009 - 01:48 am - Fore and aft that is...
Aug 03, 2009 - 10:15 am - Thanks for all the help. I installed the stbd chainplates yesterday and hope to get to the port ones tonight. I used the original mounting holes. I wo...

Pressure On Sheets   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Oct 14, 2006 - 11:47 pm - Anyone have a good guess as to how much pressure (tension) there is on the staysail sheets on a WS32? I'm going to replace some deck hardware, and whi...
Oct 15, 2006 - 05:39 am - Ahoy Terry, Grab a pencil. Your guestimate is quite accurate. At 15K the TOTAL pressure on a 149 sq.ft. staysail is about 134#. The clew, representing...
Oct 20, 2006 - 06:29 am - Hey Dave maybe you can help me out too. What size winch seems to be the best when changeing from club foot to loose footed stays'l. I know you prefer...
Oct 21, 2006 - 04:39 am - Ahoy Gerald, I believe that #16 winches would be more than adequate when used with an 8" or 10" winch handle. Saraband and many other W-32's h...
Nov 21, 2006 - 09:01 am - Thanks Dave. Glorious has the same single cleat for the self tending sail. I notice there is very little tension on that sheet (2:1 purchase I believe...

Question For Engineering Types   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jan 27, 2010 - 02:56 pm - So I have a fiddle block with cam cleat for my main sheet (end boom sheeting). The way the cleat is arranged makes it very awkward to cleat the sheet ...
Jan 27, 2010 - 03:08 pm - Just to be clear, there will still be 2 fiddle blocks but the bitter end of the sheet will go through this fairlead and cleat
Jan 27, 2010 - 03:53 pm - If I understand your question correctly the number you are looking for would be the mainsheet/mainsail load divided by the purchase. So two fiddle blo...
Jan 27, 2010 - 05:47 pm - Kevin - yes, that answers the question pretty much. I wonder if this type of block/cleat is appropriate for this use. I have visions of the whole thin...

Reefing With A Rope Clutch   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Apr 08, 2008 - 11:13 pm - My main is currently set up with three slab-reefing points and one winch on the starboard side of the boom without any way to cleat off the clew lines...
Apr 09, 2008 - 03:13 am - Dear Twelve,I'm averse to clutches - even the best are hard on lines. That said, for something like reefing lines, they would work well and seeing as ...
May 29, 2008 - 01:13 am - Gents:On the reefing topic, I am setting my main up with reefing lines. How are you set up with the luff reefing? Do you use reefing hooks, or lines?M...
May 29, 2008 - 02:10 pm - Mike,I use gooseneck hooks for my reef tacks. Jiffy or slab reefing works swell, but I'm at the mast anyway. I have a clew out/downhaul running to a w...
May 30, 2008 - 02:09 am - thanks aaron, big help.rgdsMike
Jun 02, 2008 - 07:45 pm - Hey Mike,Randy again. I now have some experience with jiffy reefing on my boat. Last week when I was hove to the reef was not proper because a block l...

Replacing Chain Plates   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

May 22, 2006 - 06:46 pm - I have to change both port and stbd aft chain plates. Any tips on getting the top bolt off? Long spanner is only thing I can think of. There is not en...
May 22, 2006 - 09:24 pm - http://www.westsail.org/discus/messages/11/194.html" id="post_1116368755
May 23, 2006 - 12:39 pm - Tipif the other four chainplates are original I would suggest changing them out as well. I changed out all six of mine and found four of them had crac...
May 23, 2006 - 02:16 pm - If you use a fine blade saw, and cut the rubrail on each side of each chainplate, you can remove that piece of teak. Use masking tape on the hull to p...
May 26, 2006 - 01:13 am - Alternately you can use a hole saw and cut a large plug out, loosen the bolt and push it out through the hole. Then cut a larger plug out of teak and ...
May 28, 2006 - 12:12 am - I would grind the outside head off the bolt and push it thru.Seems like it will be easier to get the new one in. The old one will be hard to get out w...
May 29, 2006 - 10:19 pm - Rich is right about grinding off the head of the old bolts. I always supply new bolts when I sell chainplates.Bud
Dec 02, 2006 - 05:12 am - Here is a question for Bud or anyone else. I recently bought a 1978 W28 which has been on the hard for the last 9-10 years. Should I remove and inspec...
Dec 03, 2006 - 06:55 pm - We replaced our chain plates last year. Some bolts were actually in the bulk head and glassed over and the top bolts were almost impossible to get. A ...
Dec 09, 2006 - 07:36 pm - George, I would recommend removing one chainplate, and checking the backside. If it still appears to be good as new, then don't bother removing any mo...

Riggers   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Nov 29, 2005 - 05:21 am - Anyone in the Los Angeles area know a good rigger they could recommend who knows westsail 32s?
Nov 29, 2005 - 05:56 pm - Terry,Call me. 714-549-9331
May 16, 2006 - 03:53 pm - Anyone know a good rood rigger in the Corpus Christi area who knows W 32s. I need the whole 9 yards done: new mast, new standing and running rigging, ...
May 17, 2006 - 01:52 am - Anytime you're in chop or on a long trip rig the windward running back stay. Tension it to stop the mast from pumping.
May 20, 2006 - 09:59 pm - This probably sounds crazy, but for the first year we had the boat, we ran the running back stays and the jib sheets through each others' blocks. That...

Rigging Of Staysail   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jun 11, 2008 - 03:07 pm - Hello, this is my first post (I'm a new westsail 32 owner in Ireland) and I apologise if this is covered in another thread. I searched online and coul...
Jun 12, 2008 - 01:24 am - Carl:Here's a photo of the stays'l outhaul with a hand positioned where the line passes throuigh the clew. You should have a block on the top of the ...
Jun 12, 2008 - 06:58 am - Ralph,Thanks for the very instructive photo, I believe I was missing the larger block on the boom which allowed it to be rigged that way. There was a ...
Jun 12, 2008 - 02:04 pm - I'm not sure that you need that much tension on the stays'l foot. I just lash a shackle to the end of the boom and pull the clew taunt and put the sha...
Jun 12, 2008 - 05:10 pm - Michael:I tend to agree. Not sure how often you would want to go fwd to tweak it anyway. Maybe I am just too lazy, but you option seems simpler. I is ...
Jun 12, 2008 - 08:55 pm - A bit of extra info:When you reef the stay you need to extend the length of the clew line as the clew needs to move forward as the sail goes down.Also...
Jun 13, 2008 - 04:08 am - My stays'l outhaul is led forward to a block near the swivel of the stays'l boom and is then led aft through fairleads ending up right alongside the c...
Jun 22, 2008 - 11:29 am - A lashing is typically sufficient for staysail outhaul control (use 3-4 passes of dyneema 1/8" line and it will be easy to adjust even under load)...
Jun 22, 2008 - 08:59 pm - I have to add a bit more on My experience with the stay sail.1. I have the jack line in my stay and I still need to release tension on the clew, if I ...

Rigid Boom Vangs - Opinions Please   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Oct 26, 2005 - 10:21 pm - Hi,We're thinking of putting a rigid boom vang on Daemon, our K32. I'd love opinions and comments, good & bad, about them. Any brands stand out as...
Oct 28, 2005 - 10:45 pm - Jill,They work very well. Recommend buying one from Garhauer Marine. Much less expensive than other brands, and exceptionally well made.
Nov 14, 2005 - 08:54 pm - OK, so it sounds as if we'll be going for one. Only problem with getting a Garhauer in NZ is that agent seems to be a yachtie who just imports them to...
Nov 16, 2005 - 06:21 pm - I have been buying directly from Garhauer for over 30 years, so I should be able to get one of your choice for a decent price. Don't know what the shi...
Nov 20, 2005 - 07:41 am - Thanks, Bud, we may take you up on this. At the moment Daemon is up on the hard having a spanky new paint job, and the mast is in the boatyard shed ha...

RJ Manufacturing Rope   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Oct 21, 2009 - 12:37 am - Anyone have any experience with RJ Manufacturing, a line manufacturer out of Turlock, CA?

Roller Vs Hanks   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jun 22, 2007 - 03:31 am - I'll be fitting Inalla with new sails this fall, and I'm torn between roller furling and the current hanked-on sails. I kind of like the hanked on one...
Jun 22, 2007 - 11:00 am - Terry. We just added roller. Mostly cause we're geting older and needed something a little easier. We're going to be doing some shake downs in the nex...
Jun 23, 2007 - 12:21 am - Terry:I have both roller on the jib and hank on the stay sail. I am hopeing to go all roller. For the following reasions.1.) I will change sail more o...
Jun 23, 2007 - 03:49 am - TerryThere are a number of personal considerations to make here. Ease of handling and stowage are benefits of having R/F though there are disadvantage...
Jun 23, 2007 - 11:47 am - It's an interesting question Terry. For ease of sail handling and storage, it seems that the roller furler has now become the norm for most "cruis...
Jun 25, 2007 - 06:41 pm - Terry:I guess I did not fully expound upon the safety thing that is improved by roller furling.Not only is it more common to change sails but on my la...
Jun 26, 2007 - 01:42 am - Terry, I carry 3 headsails on my w32 Patience and like the option of hanking on another sail if i blow out one or just need a different size. Another ...
Jul 31, 2007 - 12:09 pm - Terry, after some discussion with fellow sailors and also some sailmakers I'm led to believe that furlers are not to be mistaken as reefers as they ar...

Rope On Staysail Luff?   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Apr 22, 2005 - 12:37 pm - OK, I'm going to display my ignorance here...There is a small line laced thru the (jib hank) grommets on the luff of my staysail. It begins about 1/2 ...
Apr 23, 2005 - 04:44 am - Ahoy Mike,Here's the short story: It's called a jack line and it allows the sail to come down without a need for loosening the clew/outhaul. Once adju...
Apr 23, 2005 - 11:53 am - Thanks for the explanation. Makes complete sense now as when I first bought the boat (and still had the boomed staysail) I ran into that exact problem...

Running Backstays For The Staysail?   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jul 10, 2008 - 07:28 pm - A rigger, in passing, told me I should have them as there would too much tension on a part of the mast where there is no support on the other side.Has...
Jul 10, 2008 - 07:42 pm - I'm no expert but if you have your staysail up without the headsail you need the running backs to stabilise the mast. Otherwise the mast will be pulle...
Jul 10, 2008 - 07:53 pm - The title trew me :But I think the answer is yes.I have running back stays which I employ when I go to a second reef in the main and roll up the jib. ...
Jul 17, 2008 - 10:46 pm - bud sells runners consisting of a pair of fiddle blocks and a wire pennant to the mast. while this works, the system is cumbersome and requires leavin...
Jul 20, 2008 - 09:46 pm - Brian: the other down side to Bud's setup is that they double as a lifting device for MOB, can be tensioned with the winch and are easy to use and als...
Jul 21, 2008 - 12:31 am - Norm, Take a look at my website. One of the first statements is that a boat should be safe enough to work all around the deck, and that this is the be...
Aug 20, 2008 - 07:25 am - Just following this post and have a quick question. I have been experimenting with the running backstays on my new (to me) westsail 32.I keep the runn...
Aug 20, 2008 - 08:43 am - Carl:My 2 cents.If you reread my post you will note I only deploy the running backstays above 18Kts. So if I am running down wind 165 to 195 deg. off,...
Aug 20, 2008 - 05:45 pm - Carl,In short, just use one running backstay at a time.Use that tack's backstay - so if you're on starboard tack (AKA, boom off to port), use your sta...
Sep 01, 2008 - 12:26 pm - Norm and Aaron,Many thanks for the clarification on that. That helps with the setup greatly. My first deployment of the running backstays was in very ...

Running Rigging Selection   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Mar 15, 2007 - 03:50 am - Hi all,My father and I are finally in the process of purchasing a W32. She needs some interior work and exterior paint, but is sailable; we'll be brin...
Mar 15, 2007 - 05:40 am - Congratulations on your purchase!which one are you purchasing?(I think Bud is interested too)Thanks
Mar 15, 2007 - 01:43 pm - Svaldenis,W32 "Pintail" - we signed our end of the contract two days ago and the owners are going to get theirs done today. I'm uber excited a...
Mar 15, 2007 - 02:31 pm - Aaron,On my previous boat, a Jay Benford yawl, I had nothing but 3-strand line. I don't know if it was polyester or not. The boat, although only 23', ...
Mar 19, 2007 - 02:24 pm - I always recommend and sell very low stretch polyester braid line. 7/16" size works well on all of the sheeves, and is plenty strong. 1/2" is ...
Apr 02, 2007 - 01:46 am - Aaron,those of us in SW FL need a burner under us. A rendevouz is due.Hurry up and get here.

Sail 'management'   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Sep 10, 2004 - 02:42 am - With all the hurricanes flinging themselves about here & there I thought I might ask a question about cutter sail management in heavy weather:When...
Sep 12, 2004 - 08:09 pm - Ahoy Mike, This is but one opinion: My procedures differ a bit from yours. Also there are circumstances that dictate different procedures. The followi...
Sep 14, 2004 - 02:30 am - Thanks Dave,That was just the kind of info I was wanting/needing.
Sep 17, 2004 - 01:40 pm - Oops.. one more clarification.I presume the running backstays would come into play when the main gets doused & staysail alone is up?
Sep 23, 2004 - 04:59 am - Ahoy Mike,One of my running backs are up whenever I am in the ocean, regardless of what sails are up. I do not follow this practice here locally, on t...
Sep 26, 2005 - 12:25 am - In their book "Storm Tactics" the Pardeys discuss heaving to in storm conditions (>55 knots) They sayuse whatever combination of sails wor...
Oct 07, 2005 - 04:42 am - Ahoy Dick & Libby,Why is no one answering this question?55 knots is a lot of wind.I have been out there twice in 50 knots. This is my experience. ...
Oct 08, 2005 - 10:12 pm - I'd asked this question once before and someone chimed in that they were stuck in a series of gales off of South Africa in the Agulhas current (not a ...

Sail Measurements W32   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Mar 09, 2006 - 07:21 am - I intend to get new sails made up for my W32 this year. The current main is the original roachless type with a hollow leech. Does anyone have the meas...
Mar 11, 2006 - 06:32 pm - I have a copy of the original sailplan for the W32. Contact me at btaplin@westsail.com and I can make a copy for you.

Sail Names   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

May 24, 2007 - 10:09 pm - I've read a ton of stuff but I'm not sure I've ever gotten definitive answers about sail names. Can anyone help?When is a jib a "yankee"?What ...
Jun 06, 2007 - 04:05 pm - Stephen,As I've come to understand them:Yankee: any headsail with a high cut clew; aka, the tack is an acute angle, leaving the clew a good ways off t...
Jun 07, 2007 - 01:03 pm - Thanks, Aaron. That's a pretty clear explanation.SteveS/V Siempre Sabado (W28 #20)Silverton, OR

Sail Sizes W42   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jan 13, 2008 - 06:46 pm - Can anyone please tell me the sail sizes & areas of a W42 Ketch 1974
Jan 17, 2008 - 06:11 pm - I am looking around for sails. Found Bacon and Associates online this morning. Annapolis area sail brokers. They offer a search engine for yacht manuf...
Oct 25, 2008 - 03:32 pm - I would just recommend to be careful of buying too large a sail. We just sailed down the E coast of Florida with our genoa (don't actually know if it'...

Sails   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Mar 10, 2004 - 05:02 am - What's the general consensus on sail sizes for the Westsail 32, Mostly coastal sailing. Jib has roller furler.
Mar 10, 2004 - 05:22 pm - Kenn, the best advice I've received concerning sails came from Carol Haase, owner of Port Townsend Sails. She recommends that you ask your reputable s...
Mar 12, 2004 - 06:39 am - Ahoy Kenn, Ask 10 people this question and you'll get 10 answers. This is only one answer. I usually use a full hoist Yankee of approximately 305 sq. ...
Mar 13, 2004 - 01:43 am - Ahoy Kenn, I made an error to what I just said. My working Jib is 177 sq. ft. not 149. I was just punching away on this keyboard without making use of...
Mar 13, 2004 - 08:45 am - I agree with Dave, so you are getting the same answer twice from 2 different people..I have a big old nasty genny I never use. In lighter winds, I lov...
Mar 14, 2004 - 03:39 am - Sure - he just made sails for me. Kern Ferguson [kernsails@sbcglobal.net] If you need snail mail or phone I've got that, too.Ken SchatzEllipsis
Mar 22, 2004 - 08:03 am - Thanks Ken,I dropped Kern and email, but he hasn't responded. I'll take that phone number when you get the chance.Steve
Mar 22, 2004 - 02:17 pm - (949) 6457741Kern's Sails1773 Whittier AveCosta Mesa, CA 92627He is without a doubt the worst e-mail returner, but the finest sailmaker, I have ever ...
Mar 24, 2004 - 02:07 am - hi,this is the latest email i had for kern:kernsails@netzero.netno one has mentioned the main sail on this chat yet. i understand the original main fo...
Apr 01, 2004 - 11:34 pm - I have a short footed main also. However, the biggest help I find is having a cabin top traveler. You know Vanessa is only 115 pounds. When the wind p...
Sep 10, 2004 - 06:42 am - Pardon my ignorance, but what is the difference between a Genoa and a Jib. I thought the terms were interchangeable. I have a very large furling sail ...
Sep 12, 2004 - 07:35 pm - Ahoy Rod, Where is Kern when we need him? Generally speaking, yes, the terms are interchangable. There usually is a differentiation though in details....
Sep 14, 2004 - 05:12 am - thanks for the explanation Dave. It is much clearer now. I have been using the "yankee" which is on a Harken furling system together with my i...

Self Steering Windvanes   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Aug 11, 2006 - 07:38 pm - I have an electric tiller pilot on my W-32 but would like to have a windvane also for ocean work. My vessel came with an old model Aries but it had be...
Aug 12, 2006 - 04:44 am - The stays'l (and other sails) method works, but is much more time consuming and difficult to employ than a vane. Nearly any point of sail can be rigge...
Aug 12, 2006 - 07:36 pm - I bought cape horn though the last group buy. On our cruise, it was invaluable. I think the only gear on board I appreciated more was out expensive fo...
Aug 13, 2006 - 06:21 am - I have a monitor, and love it very much. On my most recent trip 3k miles to Hawaii it did 99.9 % of the steering. In all points of sail from dead down...
Aug 13, 2006 - 05:08 pm - My boat came with an Aries... not the oldest, not the newest. Even though I didn't really have it set up properly (block placement, too much slop in t...
Aug 17, 2006 - 06:43 pm - Hey All,I just got an email from Yves Gelinas of Cape Horn vanes. The model specifically made for Westsails is available for $2989 US. If I can find t...
Aug 20, 2006 - 12:27 pm - We had an Aires on our 32 for about 20k miles. It even steered with a spinnaker downwind. Ran perfectly through the Zone of convergence in the Atlanti...
Aug 22, 2006 - 03:57 am - OUr boat came with a monitor. The company is extremely friendly and will send you a DVD and information at no cost. Highly recommended.
Sep 06, 2006 - 05:27 pm - Scanmar has donated 5 certificates for $300 off a monitor to be raffle prizes at the NorCal next month! So if you're in the market for a Monitor you s...

Sheet Lead Right?   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Nov 14, 2005 - 02:48 pm - I just bought the boat, and I'm going to be driving everyone crazy with all my questions, but please bear with me.I have a loose-footed staysail, and ...
Nov 16, 2005 - 06:24 pm - Terry,Check Page C-9 of my Westsail Service Manual to see how a loose footed staysail should be controlled.
Nov 20, 2005 - 11:52 pm - Actually, I haven't had very much success rigging a loose footed staysail per the service manual.When I rigged my staysail per the instructions, even ...
Nov 21, 2005 - 09:43 pm - ours is on tracks on the inside of the handrails. I think the best thing would be to temporarily use the handrails to find the right position.Sails ar...
Nov 22, 2005 - 12:55 pm - I have tracks down the cabintop as well (although mine are outboard of the handrails). I've tried my staysail with & without the clew block and ju...
Nov 22, 2005 - 04:32 pm - We are coming down next year I think. I am sick of paying florida prices for 4 poles to tie a boat to. Seems like a good spot to temporarily use as a ...
Nov 23, 2005 - 06:13 am - I hear ya... It cost me more just to pass thru FL for 3 weeks than it's cost me to live in Guatemala for 3 months. Seriously.FYI, this is where I'm st...

Shredded Headsails   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Aug 08, 2009 - 01:58 am - Though you might want to see what a 70 mph wind does when it gets under roller reefed headsails.
Aug 08, 2009 - 03:27 pm - I have seen two of those near us. It always happens between 0030 and 0130 and it is LOUD! Ken
Aug 08, 2009 - 11:55 pm - Correction: Roller furled, NOT roller reefed. I believe these are original sails (33 years old). They were restitched (triple) 5 years ago and not a s...

Slugs   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Dec 18, 2008 - 02:43 pm - What is the best sail slug size/model for the 44' mast?
Dec 18, 2008 - 05:19 pm - Frank,Which mast? Internal or external track? I've seen about ten different brands of masts on W32s, with everything from intern 1/2" slugs to ext...
Dec 20, 2008 - 01:53 pm - Gee, I thought there was only two different masts for the 32. Mine has an internal track with a 5/16" slot. I do believe that my mast is a replace...
Dec 24, 2008 - 03:31 pm - If your mast has two internal flat tracks, then it is a LeFiell mast, and the flat plastic slides are the ones to use. If it has a round internal trac...
Dec 24, 2008 - 03:58 pm - Bud,My mast has an internal track in which I have been using round plastic slugs. I assume that means it is round internally. It also has an external ...

Solid Boom Vang Install   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

May 17, 2007 - 09:51 pm - am thinking of installing a garhauer solid boom vang on my westsail32. as my boom now slides up when raising the sails, and drops to go into the boom ...

Spare Sails For Offshore?   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Mar 13, 2007 - 03:48 pm - My second questions relates to spare sails.Are there any recomendations as to what spares should be carried?One of each? Main, Yankee and Stay?
Mar 13, 2007 - 07:58 pm - We will not carry spare sails when we leave this summer, but our sails are new. We will carry a crusing spinniker, drifter, storm tri and possiblly a ...

Spin Tec Furlers   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Feb 09, 2009 - 04:40 pm - My W32 Devon's Whisper had a Triumph 2000 furler by Spin-Tec uninstalled. I had a rigger install it for me. He was loath to do so as he really did not...
Feb 10, 2009 - 02:13 pm - I'm looking forward to reading the feedback as I bought Spin-Tecs for both of the headsails on my W28 but have yet to install either one. The simplici...

Spinnaker And Pole   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Mar 05, 2009 - 10:29 pm - Does anyone have any interest in an original Westsail 32 Spinnaker and pole????Make me an offer!Happy sailing,Don
Mar 06, 2009 - 05:39 am - Don,What type of spinnaker? Asymm or symmetrical? Sizes?How long is the pole? Extendable, aluminum?Thanks,Aaron N.
Mar 10, 2009 - 11:27 pm - Sorry Aaron,These items are sold.I will be sending pics of the new boom gallows/arch we spoke of earlier.Don

Spinnaker Sheets   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jun 18, 2006 - 01:15 am - I plan to fly my spinnaker for the first time next week. It came with Liberate. It is in a sock and in almost new condition. Alas there are no sheets ...
Jun 19, 2006 - 02:17 am - Good day Terence:Two things to think of1.) Watch out for halard chafe at the mast head entrance.2.) Go with same size poly pro (the same stuff they ma...
Jun 24, 2006 - 02:32 pm - Thanks Norm.Any idea on how much is needed?

Staysail - Hank On Or Roller Furling???   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jul 19, 2005 - 02:46 am - I am in the process of buying a new staysail and am wondering if I should go for roller furling. Having sailed on boats with RF staysails, I appreciat...
Jul 19, 2005 - 02:00 pm - I have been pondering the same thing. However, the staysail is very managable, so I'll probably save the money and keep it hanked on. Besides, it leav...
Jul 19, 2005 - 04:59 pm - We have a roller furling on both the staysail and jib. It wasn't our intention to have both. We had a Profurl #32 on the jib. After talking to Dave Ki...
Jul 20, 2005 - 01:48 am - Thanks for the responses. Each of you mentioned a storm sail. Is this just a heavier, smaller staysail? If so, what is the weight of the dacron? My cu...
Jul 20, 2005 - 01:38 pm - we have our stays'l on an older style furler with a wire in it. If we need to use the storm jib, we simply lower the whole thing and raise the storm s...
Jul 22, 2005 - 05:35 pm - The storm staysail should be about 70 sq. ft., of 9 to 10 oz. dacron, and triple stitched. It served Satori very well during "The Perfect Storm...
Aug 06, 2005 - 11:47 am - During a couple of days in the Atlantic "Zone of convergence" we flew a reefed storm sail and a storm main. The boat balanced very well and th...

Staysail Setup   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

May 19, 2008 - 09:21 pm - I am working on getting my running rigging setup now, and have made my way to the staysail. I can see that 2 options exist. 1 being the loose foot to ...
May 21, 2008 - 01:04 am - The drawing is on the CD I have from the Westsail factory construction manual. I will send the drawing to you by email.However, if you are going to us...
May 22, 2008 - 07:46 pm - I have a boomed staysail, with track and roller car as Bud suggests. However, my boat's previous owner said that force on the staysail yanked the car ...
May 22, 2008 - 09:20 pm - Thanks Michael. So it sounds like you are back to the original design of having a block on the centerline of the boat which stays centered. Did the ca...
May 23, 2008 - 01:51 am - Mike:I currently have the NIco Fico track on the forward deck for the stay sail which works OK ( not sure on the comment on the force I also have a tr...
May 23, 2008 - 02:40 am - Thanks Norm. The single block is there now, so I will use it for the meantime. Bud has sent me some details on the track, which looks like a good way ...
Jun 01, 2008 - 09:47 pm - Ahoy Mike,Hope you are well. I've been able to spend a night out hove to on my boat, set up with the stays'l track. It worked great after I made a few...
Jun 02, 2008 - 05:03 pm - Hey Norm,Thanks. I'm not exactly sure what "broke" originally. The track looks fine, and there is a sort of puney car on the track. Maybe it w...
Jun 02, 2008 - 07:41 pm - Regarding the boomed/unboomed stays'l dilemna:I think I read in Sir Robin Knox-Johnson's book about SUHAILI and around the first solo world race, Gold...
Jun 03, 2008 - 02:58 am - Hey Randy. You didnt sail into that tropical storm, did you? Or is this training for your cruising life? Looking into the staysail setup, I have dorad...
Jun 05, 2008 - 03:47 pm - One advantage of the boomed staysail is that it acts sort of like a spinaker pole in light winds, and helps keep the staysail poled out in position an...
Jun 10, 2008 - 05:41 pm - Good thoughts Michael. A couple of things I never considered before. Definitely plusses for the boom.No, Mike, I did not sail into any tropical storm ...
Jun 10, 2008 - 09:15 pm - The dorades work well. They leak a bit, but just need to be sealed - the seams have dried up and opened just enough to let some water weep thru. The p...
Dec 13, 2008 - 05:11 pm - I would like to resurrect this thread to discuss the merits of boomed staysail vs loose foot to tracks like what is described in the service manual Bu...
Dec 27, 2008 - 09:13 pm - Gary,Here's the photo of the stays'l track placement on W32 Neverland. I'm going to guess that this was "factory" installed (1976), as there i...
Dec 27, 2008 - 11:05 pm - Thank you very much David for the picture and e-mail
Dec 28, 2008 - 04:43 am - Are those mast rails factory?.....looks like they would work well for staysail sheeting (not getting in the way)
Dec 28, 2008 - 04:24 pm - I would guess yes since the teak deck pads are designed around the base of the rail. I'm sure I saw this style of mast rail as an option in the Westsa...
Dec 30, 2008 - 08:44 pm - I have never seen that configuration of teak on the cabintop; my boat is from '76 and it does not have the rails or the decking. I wonder if this is t...
Jan 15, 2009 - 03:54 pm - I've seen the rails on a number of Westsails, but I've never seen the teak decking there.

Staysail Tack   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jun 17, 2008 - 12:36 am - I have a Westsail that is new to me and cannot figur e out how to attach the bottom of the jib to the stay or?? I have some cables with rings on them ...
Jun 17, 2008 - 02:14 am - The cables with a ring at each end are pendants. You will want to get your jib up in the air a bit so as to be able to see easily under it and to get ...

Steadying Sail   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

May 29, 2007 - 03:22 pm - A friend of mine came by for a visit the last couple days after spending the winter in the Bahamas on his Columbia 34. He added a steadying sail to hi...
May 30, 2007 - 11:43 am - I found the best thing for sailing at anchor is a big snatch block at the end of the bowsprit for the snubber. It really holds her nose into it at the...
Jun 01, 2007 - 02:01 pm - Hi Don & Margaret, I have always found my Westsail to be pretty steady whilst on anchor and from what I have read it is usually light fin keels wh...
Jun 01, 2007 - 05:59 pm - Hi Rod,thanks for your opinion. Yes, the sailor I spoke with has a much lighter vessel with a fin keel. For him, the riding sail made a huge differenc...
Jun 02, 2007 - 01:55 pm - I noticed that the addition of a roller headsail has made my boat sail more than with the hanked sails also.Rich
Jul 03, 2007 - 07:07 pm - my boat doesn't sail very much at anchor, but one other way to help eliminate that is to run your snubber out of the hause pipe(? where your dock line...

Storm Sails   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Mar 13, 2007 - 03:44 pm - I am soon heading offshore in SV Liberate. This spring/summer will be spent in preperation. I have a strong desire to purchase a Storm Jib (to be flow...
Mar 13, 2007 - 10:18 pm - Consider having a reef put into your inner staysail. This will allow you to use the same sail if the wind gets too strong for the whole sail. It won't...
Mar 14, 2007 - 03:01 pm - Second the vote for a reef in the the staysail. Had that on our WS 32 and sailed 2 1/2 days with reefed staysail and storm main. Great combo and great...
Mar 16, 2007 - 05:20 pm - Ahoy Terry,The square footage of my storm jib is 61. The dimensions are: Luff=20'4", Leech=13'10", Foot=9'9". There is an additional 2' SS...
Mar 18, 2007 - 12:34 am - Dave King, You said someting I wasn't aware of...... The tack on the storm main is to be sheeted to the aft mooring cleats? I can't remember how we at...
Mar 18, 2007 - 04:03 am - Ahoy Dave,I've been sailing these boats from their beginning but it's been such a long time that I no longer remember how I learned some things. I rem...
Mar 18, 2007 - 04:24 pm - Dave and Dave, I've used my trysail twice in storm conditions and have it sheeted through a snatch block at the rear sampson post to a sheet winch for...
Mar 18, 2007 - 04:42 pm - You have a rear sampson post?Where is it located/anchored?
Mar 18, 2007 - 04:51 pm - Mike, Some of the older boats have rear sampson posts (two).They are bolted through the laz. wall each side of the laz.I like them when heaving to I j...
Mar 18, 2007 - 05:10 pm - Dking. Don't think you've been doing anything "wrong" all these years. Just never saw or read anything about it. I do like the idea of an imob...
Mar 18, 2007 - 05:36 pm - Here is a shot, Mike
Mar 21, 2007 - 01:22 am - Thank you all ofr the informative comments. Two things will be purchased this summer. 1, Storm Jib 2. Trysail.One remaining question. My staysail alre...
Mar 21, 2007 - 02:28 am - Terence,The term "storm jib" is just a name. It should be flown on the stays'l stay.Fair leads,Aaron N.
Apr 02, 2007 - 12:40 am - You have all been very helpful. I will be off to my local loft in the next 60 days for Flourscent Orange storm sails.One last Q..Does anyone doubt the...
Apr 02, 2007 - 12:55 am - You have all been very helpful. I will be off to my local loft in the next 60 days for Flourscent Orange storm sails.One last Q..Does anyone doubt the...
Nov 19, 2007 - 06:10 am - Terence, if you are interested in circumnavigation then you may want to get the film "With Jean-du-Sud Around the World" by Yves Gelinas. This...
Nov 24, 2007 - 12:11 am - Thank you George and Rayna.I will certainly pick this DVD up....Funny how life plays out....Yves designed the Capehorn steering gear for the Westsail ...

Superfurl Roller Furler   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jan 09, 2009 - 07:56 pm - I'm thinking about getting roller furling for the headsail but the cost of the roller furler, rigging, and new sail is quite high. Has anyone heard of...
Jan 10, 2009 - 11:46 am - Can't tell about the Superfurl, but look at the FaMet Reefurl. Bullet proof and simple. Also frees up a halyard. Check in the archives for other comme...

Symetrical Spinnaker   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jun 20, 2009 - 12:36 pm - What is the appropriate size for a symetrical for a W32?
Jun 20, 2009 - 08:32 pm - Kern can give you the exact answer. I just purchased an asymetrical with a sock that was used once on a Tartan 3400. It fits a Westsail 32 perfect. We...
Jun 21, 2009 - 12:08 pm - I already have an asymetrical spinnaker (drifter) and was thinking about getting a symetrical. Sail magazine had a couple of articles about spinnakers...
Jul 29, 2009 - 02:04 pm - Does anyone with a W32 use a symmetrical spinnaker? I am considering a symmetrical with a luff just under 40', but I am concerned that it will be too ...
Jul 29, 2009 - 03:40 pm - Frank,I have flown a big symmetric that was a touch above the W32 "suggested" size at about 48' on the luffs. It was in about 8kts and I feel ...
Aug 01, 2009 - 08:48 pm - Thanks, Aaron.Frank

Tacking Angle   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Aug 13, 2009 - 12:15 am - Dave KIng and others: What is the best tacking angle someone has accurately measured for a W32? I am interested in what the boat is truly capable of i...
Aug 13, 2009 - 09:58 pm - E,When you say "tacking angle", specifically what do you mean? The boat's "close hauled" degree from true wind, or the total angle a W...
Aug 16, 2009 - 02:03 am - Thank you Aaron. Good information- exactly what I was looking for.
Aug 16, 2009 - 11:59 am - Dave,Your response to this thread was lost during the website's migration to the new server. Would you repost when you have some time?Thanks!Aaron
Aug 21, 2009 - 04:57 am - Ahoy E,I went out sailing the other day just to measure the tacking angle. The winds were very light. Less than 8k. I swung many tacks with the averag...
Aug 21, 2009 - 07:58 pm - This post is not expressed exact #'sI am not near the boats log book, But there are some items on the pointing that I have found to improve the pointi...
Aug 27, 2009 - 01:46 am - Thanks to all for some very helpful information to me. My motivation is to get a sense of windward performance compared with my Cape Dory 25D. I am co...
Aug 28, 2009 - 01:42 am - Alright, since I am ignorant, what is the best sail configuration to get the max drive into a headwind for a W32, please?I'm rereading Aldred Cole's b...
Aug 29, 2009 - 06:19 pm - Yes, I share that opinion. And when just sailing close hauled under normal circumstances (decent breeze), the stays'l will help you point much higher....
Aug 29, 2009 - 09:14 pm - Thanks, that's great feedback. Must be a lot of folks haven't thought it over very much.I also read (and briefly experimented with some favor) the sta...
Aug 29, 2009 - 10:26 pm - Randy,Your question of "max drive into a headwind" is more complicated than it lets on. There isn't one sail configuration that works for ever...
Aug 29, 2009 - 10:58 pm - Oh, wow,Thanks Aaron. Great data. I'll print that out and put it aboard.Randy
Sep 02, 2009 - 08:44 pm - If flying a super yankee, threading the sheet between the upper and lowers (sidestays) allows one to point higher. I have found that a W32 can point a...

Topping Lift & Sail Shape   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Oct 21, 2008 - 02:33 am - Was sailing on A friends boat last weekend in no wind. Trying every thing, of course. Noticed leach was tight as wire. Just didn't look aerodynamic to...
Oct 22, 2008 - 01:00 am - Hmm, no wind and leach was tight. A couple of possiblilities come to mind. 1. Did the sail have a leach line? Maybe still tightened up from when there...
Oct 22, 2008 - 06:19 pm - Good idea. The boom is heavy enough to flaten the sail in light wind when you want a fuller sail. Using the topping lift makes perfect sense, just as ...
Oct 22, 2008 - 06:57 pm - I third that the toping lift may have helped, but also realize, if you were going down wind lifting the boom with the topping lift may have put it at ...
Oct 22, 2008 - 08:08 pm - My policy is indeed that the captain is always right, to carry out orders to the best of my ability, and to keep my brilliant suggestions to myself.Th...

Twin Headsails   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jan 06, 2010 - 12:57 am - anyone out there done this or have any input on flying twin headsails
Jan 06, 2010 - 02:29 pm - My boat has a set of twin headsails/tradewind downwind sails (apparently like the Island Girl boat, whose skipper wrote the book on self-steering syst...
Jan 07, 2010 - 03:18 am - Randy Have been giving this a lot of thought just seems to be a more manageable system especially for us older folks that don't really want the hassl...
Jan 07, 2010 - 03:14 pm - I don't know how this would compare from a cost standpoint, but have you considered a parasail2 spinnaker?Frank

Used Mainsails   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jul 22, 2008 - 04:01 pm - Was at Minney's Yacht Surplus this weekend looking for something else. Noticed they have two W32 mainsails in their inventory, one for $95 and one for...
Jul 22, 2008 - 04:50 pm - http://www.minneysyachtsurplus.com/Cheers,Aaron N.

W32 Roller Furling (Harken)   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Mar 07, 2006 - 06:30 pm - I'm getting my ducks in a row to add roller furling. I've chosen the Harken furler that Bud recommends only to avoid having to replace my forestay (My...
Jun 04, 2006 - 03:32 pm - We have a Harken installed our Westsail 32 "Funny Girl".1. No we have no linkplate below the drum, however the pullpit is welded slightly of c...
Jun 04, 2006 - 03:44 pm - Sorry, meant to mention also. We replaced the forestay at the same time. Consider the cost as a portion of the overall project and of course the safet...

W32 Tall Rig   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Dec 17, 2007 - 03:17 pm - A buddy and former owner of a Westsail told me that the W32 comes in two varieties - short mast and tall mast.How can I tell which rig a boat has? Is ...
Dec 17, 2007 - 03:29 pm - The Westsail 32 cutter only came with a 43' mast. There is one other boat that I know which had a 46' custom mast, but that would not really improve p...

W32 Total Length Of 9   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Aug 23, 2009 - 03:19 pm - Thought someone may know the total length of 1x19 stainless steel wire needed to replace standing rigging on a W32, including the boomkin stays. Pleas...
Aug 23, 2009 - 05:15 pm - Takes no more than 300' of 9/32" wire for a standard boat. Also 23' of 3/16" for bow whiskers, and 9' of 3/8" for bobstay.

Where In The World Is KERN?   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Jan 14, 2005 - 09:59 pm - I've been trying to contact Kern to get the strong track system. I keep calling and just get constant rings and then a disconnect. If Kern see this ca...
Jan 14, 2005 - 11:44 pm - Try 949 645 7741 his loft number -- I was able to reach him at this number in December 04.
Jan 15, 2005 - 12:31 pm - That's the number I have. Just keeps ringing. I too was able to get him in Dec for discussing some track items. Now I'm ready to go ahead and it just ...
Jan 20, 2005 - 05:56 am - Ahoy Dave, Kern's e-mail address is: kernsail@sbcglobal.net Have you tried this address?
Jan 21, 2005 - 02:52 am - Good luck with that. Kern is, by far, the worst email returner ever. The phone number is the way to go. I'd just keep trying. Or, you can do what Scha...
Jan 22, 2005 - 12:41 pm - Tried the Kern addrress and it came back as undeliverable.

Whisker Pole Attatchment   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Mar 12, 2006 - 03:37 pm - My West sail 32 doesn't have a bail for a wisker pole. how do I determine where to locate it on the mast? Is there a formula or something to determine...
Mar 12, 2006 - 04:40 pm - Check the Forespar website, it has the answer to your questions and more. We replaced our bails with a car/track to facilitate adjustment and store th...

Who Here Actually Sails Their Boat As A Cutter?   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Nov 23, 2006 - 04:47 am - When I bought my boat the staysail furler was broken and my rigger took the staysail stay off because it also had a fractured swage end.I never got it...
Nov 23, 2006 - 01:04 pm - When I had our 32 (now refurbishing a 42) I had exp a bit w/ cutter vs sloop. Adding the staysail put an additional increase in speed on the boat. The...
Nov 23, 2006 - 05:54 pm - Adam:I will add one other bit in for your thoughts. My W32 has balanced reefing points as followsbelow 7 Kts I fly a drifter with no stay.5- 18 kts Wo...
Nov 27, 2006 - 07:29 am - Ahoy Adam,The short answers are: I do, Yes, and No.The Aspect Ratio of the rig is a big determining factor in whether a boat is better off as a cutter...
Nov 27, 2006 - 08:29 pm - performance aside for a minute, I'd agree with Norm, that having the stays'le there gives you a few more options regarding sail combinations. When the...
Dec 04, 2006 - 07:26 am - Just a point which hasn't been addressed yet. I'm certainly no experienced sailor but I have found the staysail assists when driving through a gybe. I...
Dec 09, 2006 - 02:57 pm - We have found that sailing with the staysail, in addition to the jib and main, eliminates a lot of the weather helm on our Westsail 32. Also, one can ...
Dec 16, 2006 - 10:17 pm - More questions,One comment above was not having too large a jib when using the staysail. I currently have a 110 jib. My vessel also came with a Yankee...
Dec 18, 2006 - 09:30 pm - Don & Margaret:I have some what the same setup. My working Jib is about 215 Ft^2 which goes up the foil about 80% using a 6" Pendent and is Ya...
Dec 19, 2006 - 02:32 pm - Norm,Thanks for your response. I guess I have heard of "super yankees" that are made by Kern. That may be something to consider once my curren...

Winch Too Slippery   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Sep 08, 2009 - 11:44 pm - My old Barient winches don't seem to have enough grip on the drums to allow my to bring in sheets unless I tail for all I'm worth, and the grip is so ...
Sep 09, 2009 - 01:06 am - HI Terry, how many raps you doing, I do 3-4. I know what you are thinking, re knurl the drum. Do not do that. How could the self-tail not work? Sound...
Sep 09, 2009 - 07:41 pm - I use three or four wraps, and if the line is at all wet, it slips. It's not that the self-tailer doesn't work, it that it grips and damages the outer...
Sep 10, 2009 - 08:15 pm - Terry, I don't know what to tell you about the slipping.Maybe you could ask Bud. But instead of acetone get some Never Dull It's good stuff. Mark.
Sep 10, 2009 - 10:48 pm - Sounds like your winch drums are burnished from use. A rubbing compound might remove the burnished finish.
Sep 11, 2009 - 12:20 am - HI Terry, on second thought maybe a lite knurl and then polish it down a little would work. What do you think Bud? Terry I still have the shop till th...
Sep 11, 2009 - 12:22 am - Terry:I hate to ask the obvious (did someone wax the drums or the lines?) or spray them down with? silicone or alike?If your drums are chromed, then c...
Sep 14, 2009 - 06:46 pm - Terry, how old are the sheets? With age, they expand. Mine were not grabbing either, and the self tailing was a joke.Got new lines, best crew I ever h...

Wind Generators   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Nov 17, 2005 - 06:56 pm - i have a westsail32 and want to add a wind generator. i'm looking at a kiss generator, but mounting it seems to be a problem. do i hang it from the ri...
Nov 20, 2005 - 07:38 am - Hi, We are in the process of having a targa built for the back of our K32, and it is due this week, so I'll post progress photos on our website (www.y...

WindBlown Article On Rigging Adjustment   (Archived)   Show Entire Thread

Nov 15, 2007 - 12:58 am - I was told there is an excellent article in a past issue of WindBlown that deals with adjustment and tunning of the standing rig. Does anyone remember...

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