Why is this page here and not on the WOA website?Recently the Westsail Owners' Association website was moved to a new server that would allow the site to be more easily updated and maintained. While the basic content was successfuly transferred into the new site, a new Forum was started from scratch and the old Forum was converted to a collection of 41 PDF documents.
Most of the Westsails are somewhere around 35 years old. They were well-built boats and most of the boats that were built are still sailing today... many half way 'round the world. But like all classic sailboats, they will all have problems over time, and most of the problems are relatively similar from boat to boat. There's a fair degree of likelihood that any problem that might come up has already been tackled by another owner. It's also fairly likely that the solution is buried somewhere in the archives of the Forum.
Long ago, I started downloading and archiving the entire Westsail.org website, with periodic refreshes. I did this mainly because I wanted a localized version of the site that I could access while cruising remote corners of the world, with limited access to the Internet. Perhaps the biggest benefit, however, has been the major improvement in my ability to search more than 11,000 posts efficiently.
It's likely that the old forum data could have been integrated with the new application, creating one contiguous and searchable source of information. But this would have required substantial programming and data manipulation and the decision was made by the WOA to take the current course. I therefore created this application as a means to preserve the seven years worth of resources that I consider to be incredibly valuable information for current and future Westsail owners. I hope you find it as useful as I have.
1975 Westsail 32, Hull #438
Thread: "Buying New Mainsail...need Opinion."
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Buying New Mainsail...need Opinion.
I've decided to delay my purchase of a canopy and use the money to buy a mainsail. I haven't one at the moment and after almost a year of ownership I have never sailed my boat. WTF?! Time just slips by so quickly!
The W28 mainsail dimensions I copied from Aarons thread are as follows;
Luff 38' 3"
leech 15' 10"
foot 40' 6"
I seem to remember reading about reducing the foot for better balance or something like that so I'm wondering if W28 owners have, over time, found different sail dimensions to work better.
Should I have the sail people recut the sail to different size or go with the dimensions listed here? Any other suggestions such as battens, cars, etc? I'm determined to sail (not motor) to the Chesapeake rendezvous in September, but I know nothing about sails. Any advice would be welcome.
Last modified: 15 Jun 2011 11:23 AM | Eric Olander
I think you might have the foot and the leech crossed up.
I have a W32, and bought new sails from Kern a couple of years ago. Slightly shorter foot got rid of the weather helm quite nicely.
A vote for Kern. Very good quality and price.
Eric Olander wrote:I've decided to delay my purchase of a canopy and use the money to buy a mainsail. I haven't one at the moment and after almost a year of ownership I have never sailed my boat. WTF?! Time just slips by so quickly!Eric: I think the dimensions you have are for the W32.
and yes the foot is the short one the luff is the one on the front. and the leech is the backside measurement.
Easy way to remember: "foot" is always on the bottom and you "leech" (latch on to a sails back side to "flake" it, or if you have a "clew" you haul it out on the "boom") leaving the "luff" up front. You also "tack" down the front of the "foot" so as not to have the sail go up the mast lifted by it's "head".
Kind of works+/- and people who have no Idea, some how seam to be able to tolerate me.
Just a point of view.
Are you able to do allot of sailing? (you noted you were a liveaboard) remember you need a main sail cover just like the canvas work but smaller to protect the sail when it is down which is more boat bucks. What shape is the running rigging in ? I assume the boat is setup with all of the correct winches +/- ?
almost Lastly: if you keep the liveaboard boat in sailing condition, with less than one hour of work to get her sailing, then you are cruising form a single location right? (just a Thought).
One more: (Sailing) and (arriving some where "intended" on a schedule) are mutually exclusive 90% of the time. On the other hand if you have lots of time, a good book, some rope work, and some sun screen or foulies, sailing is great! Motoring is not all that bad, Heck it seams 50% of the rendezvous I have attended were by folk who left their boat at their dock (with or without sails).
Last modified: 15 Jun 2011 4:32 PM | Norm Rhines
Norm Rhines wrote:Thank you all for the great help. I've been living at anchor across the river from National Harbor (it's beautiful all lit up at night!) for a couple months now and have spent most of my energies stopping leaks, learning how to cook, convincing Leslie this is still a good idea, move around, stay cool, keep batteries charged, bathe and keep my seat on the toilet while being waked by power boats. (I now have to reassemble smashed door to the head) My fresh water pumps aren't working for some reason etc etc etc.Eric Olander wrote:I've decided to delay my purchase of a canopy and use the money to buy a mainsail. I haven't one at the moment and after almost a year of ownership I have never sailed my boat. WTF?! Time just slips by so quickly!Eric: I think the dimensions you have are for the W32.
Obviously I haven't done my actual sailing homework. Mistaking a W32's dimensions for mine kinda gives me away though, don't it? I have been motoring up to the Washington Channel in Wash DC once a week to do laundry and to take a real shower but I'm beginning to feel some self esteem issues as I sit at anchor and watch a lot of great sailors with well equipped boats sail by. (I am using a drop cloth with paint all over for a sun cover...very derelict looking) Hahaha but I am loving this lifestyle. I smile now when I get up in the morning.
I called Kern sails and he gave me a quote of 2 to 2200 dollars. This seems to be quite a bit higher than Bacon sails price. Why so high? I am having someone come inspect and help me tune etc my rigging after payday on the first and then will buy a sail. (If I've enough money left over ;-P
Kerns suggested a shorter foot and full battens and I will probably go with him. I'd buy used if I knew what the heck I was doing but don't want to waste money on a sail that isn't suitable. It sure is nice to have this Westsail group to come to.
Anyone have a used W28 mainsail for cheap?
Last modified: 15 Jun 2011 8:20 PM | Eric Olander