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Outhaul And Reefing Winches W32


Gary and Charlotte Burton

What size are people using....?
Thanks for any input


Bud Taplin
(Member)

Gary, You really do not need a winch for the outhaul, but you should have a 2 to 1 purchase on it. The outhaul line should be fixed on one side at the end of the boom, go through a sheeve in the outhaul car, back to a cheek block on the other side of the boom end, and then forward to a cleat on the boom near the mast.

A small single speed winch would be suitable for reefing. A Lewmar #14CST for a self-tailing winch, or a Lewmar 8C for non self-tailing, or equivalent winches in other brands.

I can also get an excellent price on an Arco #10 non self-tailing winch.


Gary and Charlotte Burton

There are a pair of #6 Lewmars for sale on Craiglist - $100 for the pair and they are immaculate. Too small for reefing?
I can't imagine I'll need too much power here, but is there a way to figure out the forces involved.....?
Thanks


Bud Taplin
(Member)

At that price you can't go wrong. They have a 6.8 to 1 gear ratio, and a 2.4 to 1 power ratio. That should be sufficient for tightening a reef with the sail into the wind. Maybe not enough for reefing going downwind though.


Gary and Charlotte Burton

Anyone care to chime in about size of reefing winches....?


Aaron Norlund

Gary,

With our little sails, you don't need much at all. We have one of the small, single speed Lewmar winches. About 5" tall, 3" diameter. It has plenty of power for flattening the sail.

Cheers,
Aaron N.


Gary and Charlotte Burton

Even going downwind Aaron? You don't know what size it is do you?
Thanks


Stephen and Lu Ann Yoder

Gary,

The reefing winches on our W28 are Barlow 15. For comparison sake, they are the same size as used for all three of our halyards.

-Steve


Norm Rhines

I am currently using Barrnet #10 single speed, which works OK for downwind reefing .

That said, I seldom down wind reef, why add to my work? I normally come up and release most of the tension on the main =less work, less strain on the rig, and not that much time required, however if in a race this is not the case.

I use one winch and a pair of spinlock clutches before it. One comment on the winch, when I am putting the sail away I use it as a turning block (both lines) so that I can single hand and clean up the leach of the sail as it comes down onto the boom.
I use a lazy jack system.
The winch is about 4" from the goose neck and the clutches are about 10" more out. The single speed works best because you can ratchet to keep pulling the handle tward the mast. If you pull the handle up or down you do rotate the boom on the goose neck.

Hope this helps you.



Gary and Charlotte Burton

Thanks all!


Aaron Norlund

Gary,

I just remembered - we have a Barient 10 for the reefing winch, and our stays'l halyard. Barient 16s on the main and jib halyards, small Lewmar single speeds for stays'l sheets, and Barient 22s for jib sheets.

Just as Norm said - yeah, the little winch works fine going downwind. I mean, it might have trouble trying to haul the clew of your double reef in a 60kt squall...but hopefully you're more prepared. If not, head up and let some tension off.

Cheers,
Aaron N.

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