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Westsail 32 In Sail Magazine


Frank and Melanie Scalfano

There is a (small) photo of a W 32 in the current, February issue of Sail. It is on page 26. There is a ladder attached to the port side, and I was wondering whose boat is this, and what kind of ladder is it? I have been considering getting a ladder for my boat, but I have not found one that I thought offered the security and ease of mounting that I wanted.


Aaron Norlund

Frank,

Mystic Stainless makes a nice boarding ladder. Here are a few photos of one on a BCC:

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two
three

You can find out more at:
Mystic Stainless

Hope this helps!
Aaron N.


Bud Taplin
(Member)

The ladder on the boat in Sail Magazine is one made by H & L Marine in So Cal. Available in two, three or four step models, which hinge down to four, six, and eight steps.
I buy direct from H & L, so if you are interested, contact me directly.
H & L Ladders


Frank and Melanie Scalfano

Bud,

It is hard to tell from the photo, but does that ladder have a platform at its base? Also, how in your objective opinion does this ladder compare regarding ease of use to the stainless ladder you sell?


Rich Morpurgo
(Member)

what I like about bud's suggestion is that you can use the ladder when folded up.

I used to have one on a Chris Craft years ago and they work well just getting in the dink. When I have some guests, the aren't comfortable getting in the dinghy.

I am not shure why the makers of the stainless ones don't make them useable this way.

rich


Bud Taplin
(Member)

Frank, The H & L teak ladder does not have any special platform, only steps. One potential problem is the possibility of damaging the ladder if you fail to take it aboard when docking. I like the teak ladders, but maybe a stainless steel one is more practical in the long run. The SS ladder I make hangs on the midrail of the stern pulpit, and is out of the way, but you do have to crawl over the stern rail to get aboard.
You pays your money, and you takes your choice.


Frank and Melanie Scalfano

Bud,

What do you sell the H&L Ladder for? Which size is optimal for the W 32?

Frank


Bud Taplin
(Member)

Frank,

I checked with H & L, and they no longer make the teak ladders.

I do not know of another supplier.


Tom and Dana Stiffler

Dog-N-Dive makes a nice telescoping ladder in 3,4,5,& 6 step sizes that pulls up to 15" and can be bungeed to the stern pulpit or amidship to a stanchion. They have a folding platform which makes dingy boarding easy. Defender sells them for between $200-300. For the stern mount configuration you need a 5 step one and should use a 3/4-1" teak block shim under the forward mounting bracket to make the ladder perpendicular to the waterline due to the rake of the boomkin(wood I assume). This is what I'm using. When I finish installing it I'll try to post a picture.


Tom and Dana Stiffler

Frank, I had a teak folding H&L ladder on my first boat a CT 42. It was mounted on the port side of the deck by the companionway when not deployed. It worked great but was heavy and somewhat tricky to get the bronze hangers into the mounting plates in an anchorage. It took up a lot of space on the deck and was a real toe stubber to boot. They look great though.


Frank and Melanie Scalfano

I have to admit that I like the looks of the wooden ladder, but my preference is also based in part on the feel when getting out of the water, and the ease of doing so. The SS ladders without treads just do not seem very safe or comfortable. I am interested to see the pictures, Tom. It is also important that the ladder be stable and extend far enough below the surface that it is not difficult to get a leg up.


Tom and Dana Stiffler

Frank, for the aft mounted Dog-n-Dive platform ladder on the boomkin you need the 5 step model(66 inches deployed)to get it about 10-12" below the waterline. If you go with a midship mount just in front of the genoa track behind the aft lower shroud you can use a 4 step ladder (45 inches deployed) and be about 10"-12" inches below the water level. With the platform you can pull yourself up on a knee and step up easily from there. You can also stand on the platform boarding your dingy making it much more comfortable and safe. These ladders have a 1" wide nylon tread on the steps.They come with 11 inch and 15 inch wide steps. I went with the wider steps which make a more stable configuration especially for big guys. Cheers, Tom


Frank and Melanie Scalfano

Well,

I bought a used Chris Craft 8 step ladder similar to the H & L ladder, but I suspect lighter, as I believe it is mahogany rather than teak. I am going to experiment with various placements around the midship location mentioned above, but I just wondered which side is traditional/desirable. Also, does anyone have any advice about whether to use screws to mount the hardware in the hull versus bolts through the bulwarks under the caprail. The plates with the eyes to hook the ladder into (like 1122 in the photo above) have three screw/bolt holes rather than four in the H & L, but are otherwise similar.

Frank

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