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Aries Lift-up Wind Vane Self Steering...


Fred K. Cheney

I'm getting ready to auction a never-installed Aries Wind Vane on eBay - My father bought it in 1985 and only installed the bracket for it on the boat - the rest of the unit is like-new with some minor corrosion from sitting in the storeroom for all these years (which could be cleaned up without much effort) A bag of spare parts is also included...

I don't know exactly what it's worth, I was thinking about starting the auction at $1000.00, Does anybody have any idea about what I should charge?

I'm in the process of photographing it now, and will probably have it posted in a day or so - I'll post a link to the auction when I do...

I also have a new Groco raw water strainer/combination seacock for auction on Ebay - here is the link...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=011&sspagename=STRK% 3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=320213130337&rd=1

Thanks,
Fred


Aaron Norlund

Fred,

I think you're $1000 is a good starting price for the Aries. They seem to go used for about that, even a bit more. So a new one should fetch $1500 or so.

As for the seawater strainer, I'm heading back to the west coast of FL and will be on the boat (all day) tomorrow. I'm going to check on our throughhul size as I would love to switch to a seacock mounted strainer. We're faced with finding a large flat area to mount our "T" stile strainer - surprisingly hard when one wants to be able to get at it from the cabin hatch while keeping it below the water line! A seacock-type would be perfecto!

I'll get back to you in a day or so.

Fair leads,
Aaron N.


Fred K. Cheney

Thanks for the info, Aaron, about the Aries - that seems like a good starting to me too - I might set it lower to get interest in it with a reserve of $1000.00 and see what happens...

As for the seawater strainer, Like it says in the auction, I ended up rebuilding the original one - the bronze rods had corroded through and fell apart when I tried to take it apart for cleaning - I replaced them with stainless steel all-thread, made new gaskets, and reinstalled - it's working fine now... The new one is a bit taller and narrower than the old one - mine is installed on the port side just forward of the engine and easy to reach from the cabin...

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Bud Taplin
(Member)

Aaron, I believe there is a good used one of the original design available here in my local used marine hardware store. If you want me to check on it, let me know.


Jeff Matthiae

Aaron,

I can't remember if it was in Bud's Service Manual or on the board, but somewhere I recall reading about some people having trouble getting air in the water pickup line when in bigger waves or healed over, perhaps while motorsailing. Don't recall all the details as to what caused the problem but the solution was to move the engine pickup to the bilge. I moved mine to the aft end of the bilge below the companionway steps. Not sure if the attached strainer would work there. I used a groco seacock with a short hose to a groco strainer.

I think the air in the line resulted in some overheating. Perhaps someone else will remember the details and chime in.

Jeff


Dave Kall
(Member)

One of them was me. Even though this is in the wrong area to discuss, I'll post here anyway to get it out again. In the VI's were were hobby horsing and picked up air in the seacock and snaped a pushrod in the last cyclinder of the engine. Luckily ony needed to replace the pushrod. When we hauled I moved the seacock / strainer to belowe the step. Never had the problem again. Was a good move.

Fair Winds


Fred K. Cheney

Here's the link to the auction - Ya'll bid away! ;)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320215686199& ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=011


Fred K. Cheney

Something weird happened to my auction - the vane got bid all the way up to 3150.00 (which was great but unexpected) and then eBay canceled the whole auction saying that one or more bidders were using accounts that weren't theirs or something... I thought something was strange when one eBay member contacted me saying that he's already paypal'ed me the money before I had a chance to figure out what the shipping would be - only thing was, he wasn't the winner of the auction! His message linked me to what looked just like the PayPal log-in page, but usually my user name and password comes up automatically on my computer, also the URL was different than I'm used to seeing - anyway to make an already too-long story short, my real PayPal account didn't have the money in it as I was told... I think someone was attempting to "phish" me...Here is part of the explanation from eBay...

The results of the following listing(s) have been cancelled due to bidding activity that took place without the account owner's authorization:


320215686199 ARIES WINDVANE SELF STEERING LIFT-UP GEAR for Sailboat



We have cancelled the listing(s) to maintain the integrity of the eBay site, your account, and the bidder?s account that was accessed. We are working to restore the bidding account to its rightful owner, and we are working with the account owner to prevent any additional unauthorized activity. Since the account owner did not initiate these bids, all fees resulting from the listings in question will be credited to your account within 7 days. If you do not see the credits posted to your account after 7 days, please feel free to contact us through?Contact Us? in our Help section.

Unfortunately, it is not possible for us to automatically relist these items for you. Instead, to relist these items you will need to start from the beginning of the listing process, either through the "Sell Your Item" process or through your third party listing service. We know that this is an inconvenience and we apologize for the negative impact it may cause you. We are working on tools to allow you to relist your items without starting from the beginning, but they are not available at this time.

Do not respond to this email, as your reply will not be received. If there are issues that have not been addressed by this message, you can contact us by clicking the "Help" link located at the top of most eBay pages and selecting "Contact Us" from the menu on the left hand side of the page.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Regards,

eBay Trust & Safety

So now I've gotta start all over again....


Michael Dougan

Dang, I hate that. But, if at first you don't succeed...

Probably targeted because it was a bigger ticket item.


Michael McDiarmid

Fred,
Have you thought about listing it on "Craigs List"? Not an auction site, but it's free and gets quite a bit of traffic. You could always list it for what you think is top dollar and negotiate from there if you don't get any nibbles. I agree, $3,100 is a bit more than I'd expect.

Good luck.

Mike


Aaron Norlund

Mike,

The problem with Craig's List is there are no legal obligations by either party. With eBay, if you are scammed, eBay covers lost moneys and prosecutes the perpetrator.

Fred,

Sounds to me like the person who was bidding the vane so high was a scammer and eBay knew it, canceling your listing to protect themselves from having to fulfill a possible hoakie obligation. No one with any sense of windvane value would bid $3150 for an old Aries. New vanes are that cost.

I'd just relist it.

Fair leads,
Aaron N.


Fred K. Cheney

Thanks for the advice - I'll probably just relist it - The first several bids I got were great 'cause they offered to come and pick it up so I wouldn't have to ship - Then I started to get bids from Europe, U.K. and Austria to be specific... the bids went from $2050.00 to 3150.00 in the last few seconds of the auction...


Aaron Norlund

Fred,

If I were you, I'd mark the auction for "North America only" to make it so international bidders can not do that. You were clearly the target of scammers who tend to register themselves out of the states (even if they are in) as it provides a legal buffer of sorts.

And ya know, if you were happy with some of the "real" bidders, consider doing a second chance offer to one of them. They were probably bummed someone "stole the auction".

Cheers,
Aaron N.


Fred K. Cheney

That's a great idea, Aaron, but ebay has totally deleted the whole thing I can't even get a bidder's list now... I remember that at least two of the bidders had no feedback score at all - not necessarily a bad thing in itself...

Thanks again for the advice!

Fred


Rich Morpurgo
(Member)

I just got screwed by a bidder that had no feedback score on an item that went for 3500.00

He ruined my week. I have started to not let these guys bid.

sorry for your trouble. I have the same windvane as yours and need to rebuild mine. This year it finally froze up.

rich


Fred K. Cheney

Hey Rich,

Good to hear from you - where are you? What was your $3500.00 item?

Fred


Rich Morpurgo
(Member)

Fred,

Don't want to hijack your thread, but. It is a 40 channel 20 mix monitor mixing console. I am in indiana, but on my way down your way by the 1st of the month. email me your contact and we will do our little impromptu rendezvous if you like. Will have to pick some weather.

I will see if Salty Dog is game.

rich

toolowd AT aol DOT com




Fred K. Cheney

Rich,

I have an art show the 1st & 2nd of March in Ft. Pierce, but will be available any time after that - Today looks nice here - 82, sunny, winds SE 10-15 - Might have to go for a boat ride... ;)


Tom and Barb Koehl

Rich, Shoot me an email at tkoehl2769@comcast.net. Later in March might work.

Tom Koehl (Salty Dog)


Randell 'Randy' Kocurek

Fred,
I need a windvane. Sounds like yours may do the job. I like what I hear of Aries. Wanna sell it to a member (me) for $1500.00 and be done with it? If so, where is it located and why is shipping such a hassle? Thanks.
RSVP.
Randy


Aaron Norlund

Randy,

Did you find a Westsail!? Hope so; you've been waiting for a while!

Cheers,
Aaron N.



Fred K. Cheney

I'm getting ready to re-list the Aries on eBay - They totally wiped out my auction so I have to re-write the whole thing all over again and have been putting it off... I did weigh it today - the total net weight is approx. 81 lbs. so with the packaging will come to at least 100 lbs. The crate will have to be at least 30 x 50" so that will be alot in shipping... I'm thinking about setting a $1600.00 reserve on it and if it doesn't sell I'll offer it to Randy for $1500.00...

I'll post a link to the auction when I get it listed -

Thanks everyone,
Fred


Fred K. Cheney

Okay, here we go again...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320224664955&index URL=0#ebayphotohosting


Randell 'Randy' Kocurek

Well Guys,
Very long story, very short, I just bought the Satori from my good friends Ken and Debra. Satori already has an Airies so I'm out of the market for one of those, but thanks and best of luck.
Randy


Fred K. Cheney

Wow, Randy, congratulations on getting such a famous boat! (and you know she'll stand up to at least 60' seas...)

I was just about to contact you about the Aries - it would have been cool if I could have said that my windvane went to the boat from The Perfect Storm! Best of luck with her... I guess I'll relist on eBay with a lower reserve...

Thanks,
Fred


George and Rayna Shaunfield

Randy,

Congratulations on the Satori. I have tried several times in the last few months to contact Ken to see how they are doing. I live in Dickinson and saw Satori once. I am getting close on having my W28 ready to sail. I would like to chat with you. You can reach me at 281-534-7103.

George


Wendy Smith and Paul Bowling

Fred,
Did you sell that windvane on ebay? I went and had a look, but I have never used ebay before so I could not tell if it was sold. We are looking for a windvane for our Westsail, there are not many second hand windvanes in New Zealand by the looks. We may have to get one from overseas.

Waiting your reply
Cheers Wendy


Fred K. Cheney

Hi Wendy,

Thanks for your interest, but I sold the windvane to this guy - looks like he may get some good use from it!

http://libertytoliberty.blogspot.com/

Good luck,
Fred

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