Why is this page here and not on the WOA website?Recently the Westsail Owners' Association website was moved to a new server that would allow the site to be more easily updated and maintained. While the basic content was successfuly transferred into the new site, a new Forum was started from scratch and the old Forum was converted to a collection of 41 PDF documents.
Most of the Westsails are somewhere around 35 years old. They were well-built boats and most of the boats that were built are still sailing today... many half way 'round the world. But like all classic sailboats, they will all have problems over time, and most of the problems are relatively similar from boat to boat. There's a fair degree of likelihood that any problem that might come up has already been tackled by another owner. It's also fairly likely that the solution is buried somewhere in the archives of the Forum.
Long ago, I started downloading and archiving the entire Westsail.org website, with periodic refreshes. I did this mainly because I wanted a localized version of the site that I could access while cruising remote corners of the world, with limited access to the Internet. Perhaps the biggest benefit, however, has been the major improvement in my ability to search more than 11,000 posts efficiently.
It's likely that the old forum data could have been integrated with the new application, creating one contiguous and searchable source of information. But this would have required substantial programming and data manipulation and the decision was made by the WOA to take the current course. I therefore created this application as a means to preserve the seven years worth of resources that I consider to be incredibly valuable information for current and future Westsail owners. I hope you find it as useful as I have.
1975 Westsail 32, Hull #438
Thread: "Westsail 39"
12,268 posts on 2,444 threads • From Mar 07, 2004 - Jan 08, 2012
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Mike Odom (Guest)
Hello all --
I have recently discovered the Westsail 39 and love the boat !! However, I'm having problems finding information regarding construction techniques, owner reviews, etc. I'm hoping someone in the owners association can answer my questions.
Thanks in advance,
Kimball Corson (Guest)
It is a great boat, indeed. A Perry design. It is a modernized Valiant 40 that weighs 3,300 lbs less, has 1,300 lbs more ballast, and is a foot shorter and 6" less wide. The fin is longish and the rudder is hung on a full skeg that supports the rudder from below as well. It length is 38' 10", but its LWL is 34' 4", a bit longer than the Valiant 40. The relatively narrow beam is carried well forward and well aft to create a very roomy interior with lots of storage. The basic PHRF of the boat is 128, considerably faster than the other Westsails. The hull is not cored, but is strongly reinforced with horizontal and vertical stringers as well as partial bulkheads. The three full bulkheads are attached and glassed in, as is the hull to deck joint. It is a very solidly built boat that survived the ravaging of a fluke Pacific Northwest hurricain without serious damage that took out three commercial fishing vessels, losing the entire crew of one. Yet the boat came in second in the 2002 Pacific Transpac race, both in its division and overall and against many longer boats. It is very fast, but can stand up well in a blow. The rig is a double spreader affair with high aspect sails. It is set up to be rigged as a sloop or a cutter, but goes to wind better as a sloop. Properly set up, the boat is a dream to single hand. It is very stiff and the hull is easily and quickly driven with just a 95% single foresail,used by many cruisers. Its ballast ratio is almost 45% and it can go up to 24 knots or so before having to reef. Outfitted for cruising, the displacement goes from 19,200 pounds to about 22,500 pounds, a weight many single handers consider just perfect. The helm balances extremely well up and down the Beaufort scale. The boat ghosts along well well in the lightest of airs. I know a couple who cruised the world for eight years and never used their cruising spinnaker even once. The interior is loaded with teak and the many deadlights, making the boat interior very bright, gorgeous, warm and homey. Hatches are by Bomar and very heavy duty. The berth lengths are, like the cockpit seats, very generous and comfortable to sleep on. The deck is easy to work on. Tracks are recessed on deck to avoid stubbed toes and the foredeck is roomy. The bulwarks are about 6' high to the toerail top and the stanchions are 30" high. The standing rigging is 3/8" 1x19 and very heavy duty.
The deck is cored with 4"x4" blocks of marine grade plywood that are glassed in and around and thereby isolated from each other, to avoid loosing the deck, if one should become saturated by a deck leak. Although built in Tiawan, all the hardwear, metalwork and fittings are made in the USA and shipped to Tiawan. The boat is Perry best effort to create a fast world cruiser, correcting what he perceived later to be his mistakes on the Valiant 40, itself a classic. I hope this helps.
Kimball Corson (Guest)
Correction. The ballast increase on the Westsail 39 aka Fair Weather Mariner 39 relative to the Valiant 40 is 700 lbs, not 1,300 lbs, as I mistakenly stated.
Kimball Corson (Guest)
Further correction: The PHRF for both the Valiant 40 and the FWM 39 aka Westsail 39 is 138, not 128, as I said. Sorry.