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Dodger And Main Sheet Traveler


Josh Logan

I have a Westsail 28 with the main sheet traveler on the bridge deck. I'm looking into installing a dodger, but it seems like it might interfere with the main sheet. Has anyone seen a dodger installed with the main sheet on the bridge deck? I hope not to have to move the main sheet to the cabin top.

Thanks


Stephen and Lu Ann Yoder

Josh,
I installed a mail-order dodger on my W28 which also has the bridge-deck traveler. Not sure whether or not it will interfere since we haven't been out sailing since installing the dodger. But I suspect it will probably interfere. Planning to remove the traveler and rig something up further aft like I've seen on other 28s. Probably won't get to the boat until after Christmas but when we go I'll get some pictures and send to you.
-Steve


George and Rayna Shaunfield

Steve,
It will be a few months before I do anything about a dodger on my W28, but definitely plan to have one. I would be interested in knowing where you bought yours. Also, I would certainly like to see pictures.
Thanks,
George


Gerald Astrella and Cathy Calisch

Josh,
We have a dodger and bridge deck main sheet traveler. Ours is a 32' however. It would be nice if the dodger came a bit more aft but we love it. As it is, the sheets can rub a little on the side frame when a bit off the wind. The key is a good measurement leaveing several inches of space (about 6 with ours) between the end of the dodger and the sheet. A mock up may be a good idea. Something else we discovered when trying to fit a "bimini". Boats with end boom sheeting or cabin top sheeting can attach the aft end of the bimini to the gallows and the forward end to the dodger. Not so the forward end with bridge deck sheeting. It requires a frame work or some convolusions with the forward end that may or may not work out. I can answere to that one next season.


Stephen and Lu Ann Yoder

Josh,

Here are some pictures of the dodger I put on our W28, Siempre Sabado. I ordered the dodger from JSI (Johnson Sails, Inc.), http://www.newjsi.com/dodgers.aspx in Florida. They were the only mail-oredr outfit I located. And, so,ewhere in their website, they have a database of all the makes/models of boats they've made dodgers for. As you can see from the photos, it's not a perfect fir. Also, it's now apparent that the mainsheet traveler will interfere with the dodger. But, I'm planning to change traveler locations anyway. Also, the sides are not held by a rigid pole but rather are just tied down so I guess one could just loosen the ties to get the canvas out of the way. I don't know. It's certainly not the best dodger I've ever seen but at less than half the price of most we looked at, it was darn sure good enough for us for now.
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Stephen and Lu Ann Yoder

Josh,

Here are some pictures of the dodger I put on our W28, Siempre Sabado. I ordered the dodger from JSI (Johnson Sails, Inc.), http://www.newjsi.com/dodgers.aspx in Florida. They were the only mail-order outfit I located. And, somewhere in their website, they have a database of all the makes/models of boats they've made dodgers for. As you can see from the photos, it's not a perfect fit. Also, it's now apparent that the mainsheet traveler will interfere with the dodger. But, I'm planning to change traveler locations anyway. Also, the sides are not held by a rigid pole but rather are just tied down so I guess one could just loosen the ties to get the canvas out of the way. I don't know. It's certainly not the best dodger I've ever seen but at less than half the price of most we looked at, it was darn sure good enough for us for now.
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Stephen and Lu Ann Yoder

Obviously, my images didn't post. Let's try again:
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Stephen and Lu Ann Yoder

Not sure what I'm doing wrong since I have posted photos before. Buy right now my wife needs the phone and since I'm on a dial-up....

I'll try to post the dodger images later today.
-Steve


Stephen and Lu Ann Yoder

if at first you don't succeed...
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Josh L.

Thanks for posting your pictures, Steve. That looks like a nice dodger... but you're right that it looks like it will interfere with the main sheet. Where are you thinking of putting the traveler? It doesn't seem like there is enough room to put it on the cabin top if you put an arch over the turtle hatch (on my boat this would place it very close to the mast). Thanks again for posting your pics.


Colleen Crystal

Steve- Thanks for the pics, we're looking for a dodger as well and will check out the website. Also - I'm curious my 28-footer doesn't have those winches on the main boom. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be there though. Are they to help with the reefing lines? or the outhaul? or both?
Thanks,
Colleen


Stephen and Lu Ann Yoder

Hi, Colleeen..

Yes, those are reefing winches. The starboard one could also be used for the outhaul and the port one for the topping lift if necessary. Mainly we use them for reefing.

-Steve


Stephen and Lu Ann Yoder

Josh,

I'm thinking about moving the traveler aft, to the end of the boom. The boom will be controlled by blocks port and starbpard as I've seen on a bunch of other boats. Not really a treveler I suppose, but... My cousin, who likes to race, says I'll be kicking myself someday but, since I've never really mastered the use of a traveler, I suspsect I won't miss it. But I'd love to hear from folks who have their mainsheet at the end of the boom,

-Steve


Terry Shoup

My main is sheeted to the end of the boom, and I don't have a traveler. Down side is I can't set the main flat and then move it off to leeward; plus side is it doesn't take much muscle to sheet it in, since the moment arm of the lever is long.

I took a class though North Sails some time back and learned to use the traveler. I sail on a friend's Catalina 38 quite often, and we can do stuff with his boat that I can't do with mine. On the other hand, I'll take mine when the wind pipes up and the seas climb any day!!!


Kendall and Mano Mckibben

I also have the mainsheet at the end of my boom. A dodger would definently be in the way with a traveler. I think the best option for flattening the mainsail is by using a vang (not a preventer) to port and starboard. It only sucks when tacking. I have thought about a boom vang but, I do not think there would be much improvement because there is not much distance from the base of the mast 45 deg. to the boom. If anyone has a boomvang please let us know if it does the trick.


George and Rayna Shaunfield

Steve, thank you for posting the pictures of your dodger. I will need to get one before the winter and appreciate seeing how your's fits. I have a traveler and will have to plan around that on my W28.

George


Bud Taplin
(Member)

For a good vang placement, I recommend using a 1/2" D shackle on the aft lower chainplates to attach the turnbuckle. This gives you a loop facing aft to attach the vang on either side.

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