Why is this page here and not on the WOA website?Recently the Westsail Owners' Association website was moved to a new server that would allow the site to be more easily updated and maintained. While the basic content was successfuly transferred into the new site, a new Forum was started from scratch and the old Forum was converted to a collection of 41 PDF documents.
Most of the Westsails are somewhere around 35 years old. They were well-built boats and most of the boats that were built are still sailing today... many half way 'round the world. But like all classic sailboats, they will all have problems over time, and most of the problems are relatively similar from boat to boat. There's a fair degree of likelihood that any problem that might come up has already been tackled by another owner. It's also fairly likely that the solution is buried somewhere in the archives of the Forum.
Long ago, I started downloading and archiving the entire Westsail.org website, with periodic refreshes. I did this mainly because I wanted a localized version of the site that I could access while cruising remote corners of the world, with limited access to the Internet. Perhaps the biggest benefit, however, has been the major improvement in my ability to search more than 11,000 posts efficiently.
It's likely that the old forum data could have been integrated with the new application, creating one contiguous and searchable source of information. But this would have required substantial programming and data manipulation and the decision was made by the WOA to take the current course. I therefore created this application as a means to preserve the seven years worth of resources that I consider to be incredibly valuable information for current and future Westsail owners. I hope you find it as useful as I have.
1975 Westsail 32, Hull #438
Post: "Westsail 32-never Launched-tip! Buy It WOA Member"
12,268 posts on 2,444 threads • From Mar 07, 2004 - Jan 08, 2012
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- Archived Message from Inactive Forum -
Randell 'Randy' Kocurek
Someone in WOA must buy this boat promptly. Cape Horn possible in six monts. I saw the never launced w32. Like a museum ship. Never stressed hull, I believe 1976 model or so, kit boat -- BUT, and the extremely big BUT, the family selling the boat actually farms hardwoods for a living, Duh!! First, a complete roof for everything (and easy to extract for shipping), hull never stressed, rudder never moved, fiberglass gungeons, haha, prop never never even tightened down, thru hulls, original groco bronze, lotsa bronze portholes straight from Westsail, like brand spanking new, . Get this! a Raritan head, with manufacturer's original plastic seal in the bottom of the bowl, never used!!!! 34 years old. The Volvo diesel, runs fine, BUT sellers have made a special tool to crank by hand from betwen the chart table and nav station. Fine, fine, fine, joinery... a hobby boat from an ex-GE toolmaker, whose wife says everything on the boat he did is within a one-thousandth of an inch tolerance. And it shows. A complete mast with ALL fittings,standing rigging, staysl boom, genoa tracks, running rigging brand new and oversized, turnbuckles, toggles, all like brand new in cellophane or boxes or tagged, only thirty or so years old. Unreal this deal. Barlow bronze primary winches kept in A/C and heat and never mounted. Lots of blocks and tackle, all in friggen cellophone with names like Harkens and stuff. NOW THE KICKER: sellers were went to church with Jim Grant, founder of Sailrite: triple reefed main, double reefed staysl, great, great sails, hyrdraulic presses that Grant had to buy a special machine to install at the time about 1990. These sails are quadrupled stitched at the seams, not triple, with hand sail twine, beeswaxed siezing on the slides and hanks, literrally like BRAND new. It's obvious Grant was showing his love for his buyer in the quality of the sails. A complete working set. Virtually perfect. I think they had ropes and leech lines and everything. Never seen sunlight with bags, and the kicker, perfect sail covers in blue. The sellers did not even remember they had them till we drug on the sails for viewing. Plus, hand made cushions of the highest caliber. Absolutely unbelievable deal, not to mention the hand selected ash tiller that Bob picked out from his forest cause he thought it had the right shape and whittled it out. Plus, all the teak hatches on deck are untouched by direct sunlight. Nearly pefect samposon posts of white oak and a bowsprit that you cannot even hardly see the glue line in at most places. Boom gallows with teak kept in his workshop for 30 years, all drilled and fitted to simply assemble. Lots and lots of teak, custom made with TLC. Lots and lots of hardwoods, custom made with TLC. Throw in some great anchors, and chain and rode, all part of the deal, of course, and, just imagine what you can do. A CLEAN SLATE. This boat has never seen bottom paint. Her name is AGAPE, and yes, sellers do have the Original Builder's Certificate and quote and receipt for the boat from Westsail.
The Satori, hull 223 fell into my lap, thanks to Ken and Debra Bridger here locally.
Thanks for the listings and help from all in WOA. I really want someone in WOA to get this boat. It's an unreal opportunity for someone willing to simply ship and do some minor assembly, with like new EVERYTHING. And I can vouch for the sellers, extremely nice, hospitable and worthy-- fantastic custodians of this piece of Westsail memorabilia.